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> The kill switch mandate forms a critical element of the 2021 infrastructure law. Car manufacturers are bound by the legislation to incorporate advanced drivin

> The kill switch mandate forms a critical element of the 2021 infrastructure law. Car manufacturers are bound by the legislation to incorporate advanced driving technology designed to proactively assess a driver’s performance and, if deemed impaired, limit or completely prevent the vehicle from functioning. I see no way that could go terribly wrong...

colpabar 3y ago
Now it's time to play the fun game of "which politician has a spouse/sibling that owns a company that makes the stuff that is now illegal not to buy?"
- TheLoafOfBread 3y ago
  More like, let's play a game which VIP person will get kidnapped for ransom thanks to this kill switch feature.
AlexandrB 3y ago
Not only that, but it's another mandatory system in cars that are already bloated with systems and features. More curb weight, more cost - both to purchase and to repair.
- enragedcacti 3y ago
  Not necessarily. We won't really know exactly what these systems will need to look like until the NHTSA releases their standard, but its possible that the standard will be satisfy-able while piggybacking off of already very common (and soon to be mandated) ADAS functionality like lane monitoring and automated emergency braking. IF the standard goes that direction then automakers would probably need a little more compute but that's about it. If it mandates eye-tracking, breath or touch analysis, or anything like that then that will be a totally different can of worms.
  - Confiks 3y ago
    Indeed. Comma.ai [1] does this [2] in a very open way. Including eye-tracking (which doesn't work for everyone yet apparently [3]). Unfortunately existing manufacturers are unlikely to implement this in a local-first way. [1] https://comma.ai https://comma.ai [2] https://github.com/commaai/openpilot/blob/master/selfdrive/modeld/models/README.md#driver-monitoring-model https://github.com/commaai/openpilot/blob/master/selfdrive/m... [3] https://github.com/commaai/openpilot/issues/2436 https://github.com/commaai/openpilot/issues/2436

colpabar 3y ago

Now it's time to play the fun game of "which politician has a spouse/sibling that owns a company that makes the stuff that is now illegal not to buy?"

TheLoafOfBread 3y ago
More like, let's play a game which VIP person will get kidnapped for ransom thanks to this kill switch feature.

AlexandrB 3y ago

Not only that, but it's another mandatory system in cars that are already bloated with systems and features. More curb weight, more cost - both to purchase and to repair.

enragedcacti 3y ago
Not necessarily. We won't really know exactly what these systems will need to look like until the NHTSA releases their standard, but its possible that the standard will be satisfy-able while piggybacking off of already very common (and soon to be mandated) ADAS functionality like lane monitoring and automated emergency braking. IF the standard goes that direction then automakers would probably need a little more compute but that's about it. If it mandates eye-tracking, breath or touch analysis, or anything like that then that will be a totally different can of worms.
- Confiks 3y ago
  Indeed. Comma.ai [1] does this [2] in a very open way. Including eye-tracking (which doesn't work for everyone yet apparently [3]). Unfortunately existing manufacturers are unlikely to implement this in a local-first way. [1] https://comma.ai https://comma.ai [2] https://github.com/commaai/openpilot/blob/master/selfdrive/modeld/models/README.md#driver-monitoring-model https://github.com/commaai/openpilot/blob/master/selfdrive/m... [3] https://github.com/commaai/openpilot/issues/2436 https://github.com/commaai/openpilot/issues/2436