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If you mean gambling in Counter Strike, at least it's not explicitly aimed at children.

by hovering_nox 3y ago

andy_ppp 3y ago
Children don’t play Counter Strike?
- askiiart 3y ago
  Whether or not children play CS:GO/CS:2 is irrelevant. It is a game where 50% of the time you play as terrorists shooting law enforcement, it's very obviously not aimed at kids. The only way for kids to gamble in CS at all is to either steal a credit card, which is obviously not Valve's fault, or for them to have a Steam gift card. If anything is to be done about the children, I think Valve should just 1) require a users to have a credit card on file in order to buy lootboxes, and 2) require re-entering the full credit card details if the user makes several purchases in a short period of time, in order to stop kids who, for example, memorized the CVV of a card already on file in Steam. Keep in mind that uploading a government ID would have issues, seeing as in the US a driver's license is not universal, not to mention IDs all across the globe. Maybe there's an alternative form of ID that would work that I just can't think of, but anyways, I'm against needing to upload a government ID to access anything unless it's specifically for governmental purposes.
  - andy_ppp 3y ago
    > Whether or not children play CS:GO/CS:2 is irrelevant My opinion is that it is relevant... but each to their own I guess.
henriquez 3y ago
I was a teenaged boy when I first started playing Counter Strike. Maybe I’m a Luddite but the game is still fun; I feel like you don’t have to gamble or buy 48 cosmetic collectibles to enjoy it.
kllrnohj 3y ago
It's explicitly not aimed at children being rated M / mature and with obvious themes implying as much. Obviously children still play it, but there has to be some level of responsibility on the parents here.
thomastjeffery 3y ago
Children are not the only group harmed by gambling. Regardless, many children most certainly do play Counter Strike.
- heyoni 3y ago
  Ok but as a society we’ve settled on letting fully grown adults partake in some forms of gambling. Are we really equating loot boxes in a mature rated game to casinos that will empty your kids college fund in the span of 12 hours?
  - thomastjeffery 3y ago
    My point is that the "think of the children" angle is redundant and reductive. We simply don't need to go there to have a discussion on the pros and cons of lootboxes.
geraldhh 3y ago
you mean because CS is such a mature community?

If you mean gambling in Counter Strike, at least it's not explicitly aimed at children.

andy_ppp 3y ago

Children don’t play Counter Strike?

askiiart 3y ago
Whether or not children play CS:GO/CS:2 is irrelevant. It is a game where 50% of the time you play as terrorists shooting law enforcement, it's very obviously not aimed at kids. The only way for kids to gamble in CS at all is to either steal a credit card, which is obviously not Valve's fault, or for them to have a Steam gift card. If anything is to be done about the children, I think Valve should just 1) require a users to have a credit card on file in order to buy lootboxes, and 2) require re-entering the full credit card details if the user makes several purchases in a short period of time, in order to stop kids who, for example, memorized the CVV of a card already on file in Steam. Keep in mind that uploading a government ID would have issues, seeing as in the US a driver's license is not universal, not to mention IDs all across the globe. Maybe there's an alternative form of ID that would work that I just can't think of, but anyways, I'm against needing to upload a government ID to access anything unless it's specifically for governmental purposes.
- andy_ppp 3y ago
  > Whether or not children play CS:GO/CS:2 is irrelevant My opinion is that it is relevant... but each to their own I guess.

henriquez 3y ago

I was a teenaged boy when I first started playing Counter Strike. Maybe I’m a Luddite but the game is still fun; I feel like you don’t have to gamble or buy 48 cosmetic collectibles to enjoy it.

kllrnohj 3y ago

It's explicitly not aimed at children being rated M / mature and with obvious themes implying as much. Obviously children still play it, but there has to be some level of responsibility on the parents here.

thomastjeffery 3y ago

Children are not the only group harmed by gambling. Regardless, many children most certainly do play Counter Strike.

heyoni 3y ago
Ok but as a society we’ve settled on letting fully grown adults partake in some forms of gambling. Are we really equating loot boxes in a mature rated game to casinos that will empty your kids college fund in the span of 12 hours?
- thomastjeffery 3y ago
  My point is that the "think of the children" angle is redundant and reductive. We simply don't need to go there to have a discussion on the pros and cons of lootboxes.

geraldhh 3y ago

you mean because CS is such a mature community?