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I liked the other one better- "Microsoft won’t let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself" Very nice. I was told about this pattern when I wa

I liked the other one better- "Microsoft won’t let you close OneDrive on Windows until you explain yourself" Very nice. I was told about this pattern when I was working on a web RTS. I was explained to me that many of the web "games" at the time would offer you virtual currency/gems/whatever when you try to leave. I find it all very classy. I really should force my wife off windows. Her next laptop is going to run Linux no matter what. Even a Mac would be an improvement but sane configurations start at like 2000 euro.

gymbeaux 3y ago
Linux is great but Linux with desktop is rather buggy. Even GNOME and KDE are rife with bugs (depending on your hardware somewhat). Then there are the quality of life improvements like that window layout system in Windows 11 that beats anything on Linux for ultrawide monitors (KDE has something similar but it’s not quite as seamless/fancy). Overclocking monitors is basically impossible on Linux (all of the “try this” answers on StackExchange and elsewhere don’t work anymore). I guess there are people who don’t care about stuff like that but for people like me, it’s hard to ditch Windows.
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- olyjohn 3y ago
  It's not as buggy as you're making it sound. You can keep using Windows all you want. Due to one little edge case. Fine. I'd rather use the buggiest, shittiest window manager than put up with the user-hostility, the ads, the shit that gets installed without my permission, the settings that get changed back to Microsoft's defaults, these fucking surveys, the deception, lies and trickery.
  - gymbeaux 3y ago
    See from my point of view you are being unfair to Windows. Brass tacks- both kind of suck for desktop usage.
- firebaze 3y ago
  I don't know anyone, including my 78yo father, who regretted switching to Linux (PopOS mostly) from Windows. Ironically, the hardest part was teaching my father to just use MS 365 instead of looking for the installed MS Word. On the other hand, anyone I know still using Windows is using it for gaming. And that includes professional developers, hobbyists, and students. Saying this as a long time (~10y) Windows developer. Switched to MacOS / Linux around 5 years ago, wife and family using Linux or iPad.
  - hammyhavoc 3y ago
    Plenty of folks using Windows for audio, but that doesn't mean it doesn't suck these days.
  - gymbeaux 3y ago
    I have issues with all three ecosystems. I’ve listed them in a previous comment on HN but macOS off the top of the noggin: no longer supports display scaling on 1440p displays; Night Shift doesn’t work on DisplayLink displays; can’t adjust volume on external displays’ speakers. Dumb.
- brnt 3y ago
  Ive been using KDE 5 for a decade now and I don't know what you mean by buggy, after soms growong pains in 2013 I don't recall a single bug since then.
- deafpolygon 3y ago
  > Even GNOME and KDE are rife with bugs (depending on your hardware somewhat). Even though you'll have diehards that claim they haven't had any issues since X year. When I had KDE installed at the start of the year, I had bugs dealing with multiple monitors (apps wouldn't remember position if I had closed them on any monitor other than the left-most monitor). I had the UI crash repeatedly, issues transferring files using Dolphin (it would just simply hang on >500 files or if the files were large - it was fine if I used GNOME's file manager or the shell). I had slight issues getting wallpaper settings to stick. Shortcuts wouldn't always fire depending on how they were configured. The list goes on. I firmly believe that the folks who don't have an issue with KDE are just exhibiting forms of Stockholm syndrome or have worked around issues automatically (forgetting that they exist). When you see issues crop up when users are switching, and you aren't having those issues- maybe the issue is that you've created a mental model that effectively works around those issues without you realizing it. The solution isn't to blame the users having issues; rather, it's to take a hard look at what the problem is and realize maybe there is a real problem here.
  - gymbeaux 3y ago
    My KDE (and sometimes GNOME) issues are mostly to do with scaling. If you use KDE or GNOME with a single, 1920x1080p display and AMD or Intel GPU, I doubt you’ll really have any issues.

gymbeaux 3y ago

Linux is great but Linux with desktop is rather buggy. Even GNOME and KDE are rife with bugs (depending on your hardware somewhat). Then there are the quality of life improvements like that window layout system in Windows 11 that beats anything on Linux for ultrawide monitors (KDE has something similar but it’s not quite as seamless/fancy). Overclocking monitors is basically impossible on Linux (all of the “try this” answers on StackExchange and elsewhere don’t work anymore). I guess there are people who don’t care about stuff like that but for people like me, it’s hard to ditch Windows.

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olyjohn 3y ago
It's not as buggy as you're making it sound. You can keep using Windows all you want. Due to one little edge case. Fine. I'd rather use the buggiest, shittiest window manager than put up with the user-hostility, the ads, the shit that gets installed without my permission, the settings that get changed back to Microsoft's defaults, these fucking surveys, the deception, lies and trickery.
- gymbeaux 3y ago
  See from my point of view you are being unfair to Windows. Brass tacks- both kind of suck for desktop usage.
firebaze 3y ago
I don't know anyone, including my 78yo father, who regretted switching to Linux (PopOS mostly) from Windows. Ironically, the hardest part was teaching my father to just use MS 365 instead of looking for the installed MS Word. On the other hand, anyone I know still using Windows is using it for gaming. And that includes professional developers, hobbyists, and students. Saying this as a long time (~10y) Windows developer. Switched to MacOS / Linux around 5 years ago, wife and family using Linux or iPad.
- hammyhavoc 3y ago
  Plenty of folks using Windows for audio, but that doesn't mean it doesn't suck these days.
- gymbeaux 3y ago
  I have issues with all three ecosystems. I’ve listed them in a previous comment on HN but macOS off the top of the noggin: no longer supports display scaling on 1440p displays; Night Shift doesn’t work on DisplayLink displays; can’t adjust volume on external displays’ speakers. Dumb.
brnt 3y ago
Ive been using KDE 5 for a decade now and I don't know what you mean by buggy, after soms growong pains in 2013 I don't recall a single bug since then.
deafpolygon 3y ago
> Even GNOME and KDE are rife with bugs (depending on your hardware somewhat). Even though you'll have diehards that claim they haven't had any issues since X year. When I had KDE installed at the start of the year, I had bugs dealing with multiple monitors (apps wouldn't remember position if I had closed them on any monitor other than the left-most monitor). I had the UI crash repeatedly, issues transferring files using Dolphin (it would just simply hang on >500 files or if the files were large - it was fine if I used GNOME's file manager or the shell). I had slight issues getting wallpaper settings to stick. Shortcuts wouldn't always fire depending on how they were configured. The list goes on. I firmly believe that the folks who don't have an issue with KDE are just exhibiting forms of Stockholm syndrome or have worked around issues automatically (forgetting that they exist). When you see issues crop up when users are switching, and you aren't having those issues- maybe the issue is that you've created a mental model that effectively works around those issues without you realizing it. The solution isn't to blame the users having issues; rather, it's to take a hard look at what the problem is and realize maybe there is a real problem here.
- gymbeaux 3y ago
  My KDE (and sometimes GNOME) issues are mostly to do with scaling. If you use KDE or GNOME with a single, 1920x1080p display and AMD or Intel GPU, I doubt you’ll really have any issues.