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> Killing trees for short term gain is just hatefully stupid. Like any other kind of poaching. Killing elephants for their tusks, or killing sharks for their

by RajT88 3y ago

> Killing trees for short term gain is just hatefully stupid. Like any other kind of poaching. Killing elephants for their tusks, or killing sharks for their fins. People are fucking selfish, short-sighted assholes.

s0rce 3y ago
I mean killing elephants and sharks is terrible but thats the only way to harvest those parts so its a bit different, its not like you could carefully remove them and they'd grow another set for harvest next year.
- RajT88 3y ago
  You have a point on the shark fins, but Elephant tusks for sure grow back!
  - kelipso 3y ago
    Elephant tusks are teeth, they don't grow back. Rhino horns on the other hand are hair, so they grow back.
    - OJFord 3y ago
      So are 'milk teeth' hair, and adult teeth teeth? More seriously - that's a funny evolutionary result isn't it, (exactly) two sets of teeth in life?
      - undersuit 3y ago
        You're born with both sets of teeth, no hair teeth here, usually unerupted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_tooth_development https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_tooth_development
        shiroiuma 3y ago
        Yeah, if you've never seen one, take a look at a child's skull: it's freaky-looking. Most people have no idea because we don't normally see these, only adult ones.
- sdenton4 3y ago
  For elephants you can simply wait for them to die of natural causes.
  - s0rce 3y ago
    Yes, I had a small piece of a tusk for research purposes that was harvested from an elephant that had died naturally, there was a bunch of paperwork that accompanied it. Paper published here for those who might be curious: https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/nn3049957 https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/nn3049957
ASalazarMX 3y ago
> People are fucking selfish, short-sighted assholes. Orcas kill great white sharks only to eat the liver. Your intestinal bacteria will kill you (and themselves with you) if they escape into your circulatory system. There are many more examples of creatures being fucking selfish, short-sighted assholes. I guess it's inevitable when life evolves competing for resources, although we, as higher intellects, should know better.
- pazimzadeh 3y ago
  > Your intestinal bacteria will kill you (and themselves with you) if they escape into your circulatory system That's why you are constantly generating a mucus layer with extreme diversity of sugar linkages, so that they are fed without one bacteria being able to take over the whole area (basically taming them). If instead you try to eradicate them with antibiotics (i.e. nuclear bombs) then you will inevitably breed ones that will kill you.

by RajT88 3y ago

s0rce 3y ago

I mean killing elephants and sharks is terrible but thats the only way to harvest those parts so its a bit different, its not like you could carefully remove them and they'd grow another set for harvest next year.

RajT88 3y ago
You have a point on the shark fins, but Elephant tusks for sure grow back!
- kelipso 3y ago
  Elephant tusks are teeth, they don't grow back. Rhino horns on the other hand are hair, so they grow back.
  - OJFord 3y ago
    So are 'milk teeth' hair, and adult teeth teeth? More seriously - that's a funny evolutionary result isn't it, (exactly) two sets of teeth in life?
    - undersuit 3y ago
      You're born with both sets of teeth, no hair teeth here, usually unerupted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_tooth_development https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_tooth_development
      - shiroiuma 3y ago
        Yeah, if you've never seen one, take a look at a child's skull: it's freaky-looking. Most people have no idea because we don't normally see these, only adult ones.
sdenton4 3y ago
For elephants you can simply wait for them to die of natural causes.
- s0rce 3y ago
  Yes, I had a small piece of a tusk for research purposes that was harvested from an elephant that had died naturally, there was a bunch of paperwork that accompanied it. Paper published here for those who might be curious: https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/nn3049957 https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/nn3049957

ASalazarMX 3y ago

> People are fucking selfish, short-sighted assholes. Orcas kill great white sharks only to eat the liver. Your intestinal bacteria will kill you (and themselves with you) if they escape into your circulatory system. There are many more examples of creatures being fucking selfish, short-sighted assholes. I guess it's inevitable when life evolves competing for resources, although we, as higher intellects, should know better.

pazimzadeh 3y ago
> Your intestinal bacteria will kill you (and themselves with you) if they escape into your circulatory system That's why you are constantly generating a mucus layer with extreme diversity of sugar linkages, so that they are fed without one bacteria being able to take over the whole area (basically taming them). If instead you try to eradicate them with antibiotics (i.e. nuclear bombs) then you will inevitably breed ones that will kill you.