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US immigration? If I live past tomorrow, I want to leave the US. Idk how to even start.

by j33zusjuice 3y ago

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not_your_vase 3y ago
The grass is always greener on the other side lol Personally I am investigating how could I move to the US...
- 4death4 3y ago
  I’ve lived in both the US and Europe. They’re vastly different places. I wouldn’t say one is better than the other, but certain types of personalities will definitely enjoy one more than the other.
- orangepurple 3y ago
  If you are talented and influential and meet the requirements don't forget about EB-1 and O-1 visas
  - not_your_vase 3y ago
    Unfortunately I am not particularly talented nor famous, just a run of the mill code-monkey who thinks to be better than the others (but objectively that's most likely not right). Even though I am very interested in moving to the US, realistically that will remain only a plan.
4death4 3y ago
What is your profession?
orangepurple 3y ago
One does not simply leave. You need permission from your destination to reside there. Tourism is different.
- salamandersss 3y ago
  Constitution and ground level dynamics of Argentina makes this false for their country. Even criminals entering as tourist on false passport have been granted citizenship in accordance with their constitution.
  - shiroiuma 3y ago
    The OP's statement doesn't seem false. Argentina is simply giving these people permission, even though their standards are apparently quite lax.
    - salamandersss 3y ago
      Not really. It takes 2 years to meet citizenship criteria and until then you are illegal without a visa but it's unenforced at ground level and not even a crime. It's actually much easier for many to obtain citizenship by residing illegally without permission and then applying under constitutional provision which doesnt care their residency was illegal. That is the method to obtain citizenship for most without means is you must act without permission and then run down the clock.
      - shiroiuma 3y ago
        It sounds like they do have permission, it's just not "official". If the law isn't enforced at all, and breaking it isn't considered a crime and there's no punishment for simply ignoring it, that sounds like tacit approval to me.
        salamandersss 3y ago
        That's one way you could interpret it. You might say the same thing applies to visa overstays in the US, which isn't a crime and essentially unenforced except at easily predictable attempts to elicit self snitching at inland border checkpoints.
striking 3y ago
If you're rich, try applying for a golden visa. If you have certain kinds of ancestry, try applying for citizenship based on that. If you're educated or well-versed in something important, there are some kinds of visa specifically available to those kinds of folks. Otherwise, I guess you can try to get a job somewhere and then work that job long enough to turn a work visa into a citizenship. That all being said, as some sibling comments put it, the grass really always is greener on the other side. As a dual citizen (US-EU) I'm perfectly happy to stay in the US. Some of my family moved back and immediately came to deeply regret it. (Specifically wrt your note about living past tomorrow, I promise you I wouldn't be attending my grandmother's funeral today if she had stayed in the States.) Maybe you should take a full inventory of the advantages and disadvantages of your current and target states before devoting many long hours to the immigration process.
shiroiuma 3y ago
If you're a skilled tech worker as is typical for the HN crowd, it's pretty simple: look for jobs abroad that will sponsor your work visa in those countries. There are many job sites oriented towards expats (or prospective immigrants, depending on your viewpoint) with job postings. Many of the mainstream sites like indeed.com and glassdoor.com also allow you to search for jobs in particular countries. I will warn you, though: salaries in the software sector are generally much lower abroad, though the cost-of-living is generally lower too, so it's not necessarily that bad.

US immigration? If I live past tomorrow, I want to leave the US. Idk how to even start.

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not_your_vase 3y ago

The grass is always greener on the other side lol Personally I am investigating how could I move to the US...

4death4 3y ago
I’ve lived in both the US and Europe. They’re vastly different places. I wouldn’t say one is better than the other, but certain types of personalities will definitely enjoy one more than the other.
orangepurple 3y ago
If you are talented and influential and meet the requirements don't forget about EB-1 and O-1 visas
- not_your_vase 3y ago
  Unfortunately I am not particularly talented nor famous, just a run of the mill code-monkey who thinks to be better than the others (but objectively that's most likely not right). Even though I am very interested in moving to the US, realistically that will remain only a plan.

4death4 3y ago

What is your profession?

orangepurple 3y ago

One does not simply leave. You need permission from your destination to reside there. Tourism is different.

salamandersss 3y ago
Constitution and ground level dynamics of Argentina makes this false for their country. Even criminals entering as tourist on false passport have been granted citizenship in accordance with their constitution.
- shiroiuma 3y ago
  The OP's statement doesn't seem false. Argentina is simply giving these people permission, even though their standards are apparently quite lax.
  - salamandersss 3y ago
    Not really. It takes 2 years to meet citizenship criteria and until then you are illegal without a visa but it's unenforced at ground level and not even a crime. It's actually much easier for many to obtain citizenship by residing illegally without permission and then applying under constitutional provision which doesnt care their residency was illegal. That is the method to obtain citizenship for most without means is you must act without permission and then run down the clock.
    - shiroiuma 3y ago
      It sounds like they do have permission, it's just not "official". If the law isn't enforced at all, and breaking it isn't considered a crime and there's no punishment for simply ignoring it, that sounds like tacit approval to me.
      - salamandersss 3y ago
        That's one way you could interpret it. You might say the same thing applies to visa overstays in the US, which isn't a crime and essentially unenforced except at easily predictable attempts to elicit self snitching at inland border checkpoints.

striking 3y ago

If you're rich, try applying for a golden visa. If you have certain kinds of ancestry, try applying for citizenship based on that. If you're educated or well-versed in something important, there are some kinds of visa specifically available to those kinds of folks. Otherwise, I guess you can try to get a job somewhere and then work that job long enough to turn a work visa into a citizenship. That all being said, as some sibling comments put it, the grass really always is greener on the other side. As a dual citizen (US-EU) I'm perfectly happy to stay in the US. Some of my family moved back and immediately came to deeply regret it. (Specifically wrt your note about living past tomorrow, I promise you I wouldn't be attending my grandmother's funeral today if she had stayed in the States.) Maybe you should take a full inventory of the advantages and disadvantages of your current and target states before devoting many long hours to the immigration process.

shiroiuma 3y ago

If you're a skilled tech worker as is typical for the HN crowd, it's pretty simple: look for jobs abroad that will sponsor your work visa in those countries. There are many job sites oriented towards expats (or prospective immigrants, depending on your viewpoint) with job postings. Many of the mainstream sites like indeed.com and glassdoor.com also allow you to search for jobs in particular countries. I will warn you, though: salaries in the software sector are generally much lower abroad, though the cost-of-living is generally lower too, so it's not necessarily that bad.