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I probably don't understand clearly enough. Physics, chemistry, biology, even psychology have textbooks. Pick one, it doesn't matter much. It will teach you rou

by kbrkbr 3y ago

I probably don't understand clearly enough. Physics, chemistry, biology, even psychology have textbooks. Pick one, it doesn't matter much. It will teach you roughly the same basic things. Philosophy on the other hand. Pick Searle or Derrida, pick Quine or the late Heidegger, and it is hard to conceive that they are even doing the same thing ("philosophy").

GoblinSlayer 3y ago
>Philosophy on the other hand. Filter it by the tag "naturalism". Where's semantic web, again?
dragonwriter 3y ago
Philosophy used to include all of physics, chemistry, biology, etc. What it retains is everything that hasn't gotten pulled out into its own named discipline. Which is something of a jumble, sure.
mistermann 3y ago
>I probably don't understand clearly enough. Physics, chemistry, biology, even psychology have textbooks. Pick one, it doesn't matter much. It will teach you roughly the same basic things. And generally speaking, the practitioners of these disciplines tend to assert that their findings are true, in fact. Whether they are actually true....well, interest in that tends to drop off quite rapidly. Welcome to Planet Earth, 2023, please enjoy your stay. >Philosophy on the other hand. Pick Searle or Derrida, pick Quine or the late Heidegger, and it is hard to conceive that they are even doing the same thing ("philosophy"). Investigating the mysterious extremes of a system is a lot harder than investigating the known to be (now, after many decades of very hard work and dedication) deterministic middle ground. At the end of the day, everyone is doing their best, and Mother Nature will award us with the fruits of our collective activities...unfortunately, our (projected) rewards seem to be taking a steeply downward trajectory with this whole climate change thing. Shame there seems to be not much we can (actually) do about it, despite our over-abundance of surely fantastic ideas.
- GoblinSlayer 3y ago
  It certainly looks like philosophers use genetic search algorithm to make better ideas, so there are many mutants, but the method is known to perform well in the situation when the result can't be deduced straightforwardly.

by kbrkbr 3y ago

GoblinSlayer 3y ago

>Philosophy on the other hand. Filter it by the tag "naturalism". Where's semantic web, again?

dragonwriter 3y ago

Philosophy used to include all of physics, chemistry, biology, etc. What it retains is everything that hasn't gotten pulled out into its own named discipline. Which is something of a jumble, sure.

mistermann 3y ago

>I probably don't understand clearly enough. Physics, chemistry, biology, even psychology have textbooks. Pick one, it doesn't matter much. It will teach you roughly the same basic things. And generally speaking, the practitioners of these disciplines tend to assert that their findings are true, in fact. Whether they are actually true....well, interest in that tends to drop off quite rapidly. Welcome to Planet Earth, 2023, please enjoy your stay. >Philosophy on the other hand. Pick Searle or Derrida, pick Quine or the late Heidegger, and it is hard to conceive that they are even doing the same thing ("philosophy"). Investigating the mysterious extremes of a system is a lot harder than investigating the known to be (now, after many decades of very hard work and dedication) deterministic middle ground. At the end of the day, everyone is doing their best, and Mother Nature will award us with the fruits of our collective activities...unfortunately, our (projected) rewards seem to be taking a steeply downward trajectory with this whole climate change thing. Shame there seems to be not much we can (actually) do about it, despite our over-abundance of surely fantastic ideas.

GoblinSlayer 3y ago
It certainly looks like philosophers use genetic search algorithm to make better ideas, so there are many mutants, but the method is known to perform well in the situation when the result can't be deduced straightforwardly.