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didibus 3y ago
I feel you're not enjoying looking for evidence of your claims as much as I am. But sure, it says: > Vaccine mandates were primarily advocated to decrease severe COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations, protect healthcare systems, ensure safer public spaces, and aim for herd immunity. This approach was favored even when the effect of vaccines on transmission was not fully known, as the overall public health benefits were clear. I also explicitly challenged it and asked what's the point of mandating healthy individuals to get vaccinated if they weren't sure it would reduce transmission and it said: > 1. Prevent severe disease: Even healthy individuals can suffer severe effects from COVID-19, although the risk is lower. > 2. Reduce the burden on healthcare: Preventing illness in healthy individuals helps maintain healthcare capacity for all. > 3. Mitigate the risk of variants: High vaccination rates can reduce the chance of new, potentially more dangerous variants. > These benefits were considered to outweigh the uncertainties regarding transmission at the time mandates were discussed. Please paste snippets and links to archives or other indicators that may show that when vaccines first arrived expert said it would prevent transmision without any basis for their claims. I'm totally willing to believe it, and I'm sure some did, but it also looks like there were experts and official sources that explicitly said that wasn't a sure thing. So at least I know I'm not crazy for having had that impression. And you have to recognize, there's a lot of revisionist history and false representation going around too. I'm sure some people would have told others that experts and officials said something and they actually never said that. This probably happened a lot, which can make it feel to people experts and officials said something even when they never did. Also, if it helps you swallow what I'm saying, I want to point out that I'm not a fan of vaccine mandates for the same reasons that I'm pro-choice. I believe people should have autonomy over their bodies.
- whatwhaaaaat 3y ago
  I gotta be honest. Trying to discuss something with someone who is just pasting word calculator responses is not actually getting either of us anywhere. There is no truth to your word calculator copy pasta. It’s in total bullshit and anyone who has used any of these “ai” tools for any length of time for anything important knows how poor the responses really are. I’m not trying to convince any one of anything. If you process the same information that I did and come to the conclusion you should boooooost then go for it.

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I feel you're not enjoying looking for evidence of your claims as much as I am. But sure, it says: > Vaccine mandates were primarily advocated to decrease severe COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations, protect healthcare systems, ensure safer public spaces, and aim for herd immunity. This approach was favored even when the effect of vaccines on transmission was not fully known, as the overall public health benefits were clear. I also explicitly challenged it and asked what's the point of mandating healthy individuals to get vaccinated if they weren't sure it would reduce transmission and it said: > 1. Prevent severe disease: Even healthy individuals can suffer severe effects from COVID-19, although the risk is lower. > 2. Reduce the burden on healthcare: Preventing illness in healthy individuals helps maintain healthcare capacity for all. > 3. Mitigate the risk of variants: High vaccination rates can reduce the chance of new, potentially more dangerous variants. > These benefits were considered to outweigh the uncertainties regarding transmission at the time mandates were discussed. Please paste snippets and links to archives or other indicators that may show that when vaccines first arrived expert said it would prevent transmision without any basis for their claims. I'm totally willing to believe it, and I'm sure some did, but it also looks like there were experts and official sources that explicitly said that wasn't a sure thing. So at least I know I'm not crazy for having had that impression. And you have to recognize, there's a lot of revisionist history and false representation going around too. I'm sure some people would have told others that experts and officials said something and they actually never said that. This probably happened a lot, which can make it feel to people experts and officials said something even when they never did. Also, if it helps you swallow what I'm saying, I want to point out that I'm not a fan of vaccine mandates for the same reasons that I'm pro-choice. I believe people should have autonomy over their bodies.

whatwhaaaaat 3y ago
I gotta be honest. Trying to discuss something with someone who is just pasting word calculator responses is not actually getting either of us anywhere. There is no truth to your word calculator copy pasta. It’s in total bullshit and anyone who has used any of these “ai” tools for any length of time for anything important knows how poor the responses really are. I’m not trying to convince any one of anything. If you process the same information that I did and come to the conclusion you should boooooost then go for it.