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Check out your disk writes per day after using an 8gb m-series MacBook due to swapping. It will make your head explode. I personally had a tb per day, and that

Check out your disk writes per day after using an 8gb m-series MacBook due to swapping. It will make your head explode. I personally had a tb per day, and that was mostly just web browsing with a lot of tabs, not even doing work stuff. The soldered on ssds only have a certain write capacity before they’re pooched, meaning your whole machine is toast after that. I got rid of mine after seeing that

bee_rider 3y ago
Apparently the 870 EVO is good for 2400TBW (I picked that because it was the first thing that I stumbled across while googling, not sure what brand Apple uses, but I guess they must be aware that they are planning to swap a lot, so I bet they went for the higher end). So assuming Apple’s disk isn’t much worse than an 870 Evo, that’s around 7 years. Probably increased a bit if your weekend workload is lighter.
- coder543 3y ago
  No... TBW scales with the size of the disk. The 870 EVO is not uniformly rated for 2400TBW. Different technologies will have different TBW per GB of storage, but for a line of SSDs with the same technology, it almost always scales linearly by the amount of storage. The 250GB model of the 870 EVO is warrantied for 150TBW. Many of the laptops Apple sells with 8GB of RAM only come with a 256GB SSD. Surely nobody is buying an Apple laptop with 8GB of RAM and a 4TB SSD. Is 5 months a good enough lifespan for a computer? I am personally skeptical that most people would be seeing 1TBW per day, but I firmly believe that 8GB is unjustifiably low. Apple offers 24GB as an option, so they could (and should) offer 12GB as the base spec if they're unwilling to make 16GB the base spec. "Warrantied TBW for 870 EVO: 150 TBW for 250 GB model, 300 TBW for 500 GB model, 600 TBW for 1 TB model, 1,200 TBW for 2 TB model and 2,400 TBW for 4 TB model"[0] [0]: https://semiconductor.samsung.com/us/consumer-storage/internal-ssd/870evo/ https://semiconductor.samsung.com/us/consumer-storage/intern...
  - goosedragons 3y ago
    Apple weirdly limits SSD size to config. You can't buy a 4TB 8GB M3 MBP. It caps out at 2TB. If you want 4TB you need a M3 Pro or Max and 8TB is also only available with a Max for example.
    - bdavbdav 3y ago
      I suspect the CTO ones aren’t really CTO at all, leading to the limited selection.

bee_rider 3y ago

Apparently the 870 EVO is good for 2400TBW (I picked that because it was the first thing that I stumbled across while googling, not sure what brand Apple uses, but I guess they must be aware that they are planning to swap a lot, so I bet they went for the higher end). So assuming Apple’s disk isn’t much worse than an 870 Evo, that’s around 7 years. Probably increased a bit if your weekend workload is lighter.

coder543 3y ago
No... TBW scales with the size of the disk. The 870 EVO is not uniformly rated for 2400TBW. Different technologies will have different TBW per GB of storage, but for a line of SSDs with the same technology, it almost always scales linearly by the amount of storage. The 250GB model of the 870 EVO is warrantied for 150TBW. Many of the laptops Apple sells with 8GB of RAM only come with a 256GB SSD. Surely nobody is buying an Apple laptop with 8GB of RAM and a 4TB SSD. Is 5 months a good enough lifespan for a computer? I am personally skeptical that most people would be seeing 1TBW per day, but I firmly believe that 8GB is unjustifiably low. Apple offers 24GB as an option, so they could (and should) offer 12GB as the base spec if they're unwilling to make 16GB the base spec. "Warrantied TBW for 870 EVO: 150 TBW for 250 GB model, 300 TBW for 500 GB model, 600 TBW for 1 TB model, 1,200 TBW for 2 TB model and 2,400 TBW for 4 TB model"[0] [0]: https://semiconductor.samsung.com/us/consumer-storage/internal-ssd/870evo/ https://semiconductor.samsung.com/us/consumer-storage/intern...
- goosedragons 3y ago
  Apple weirdly limits SSD size to config. You can't buy a 4TB 8GB M3 MBP. It caps out at 2TB. If you want 4TB you need a M3 Pro or Max and 8TB is also only available with a Max for example.
  - bdavbdav 3y ago
    I suspect the CTO ones aren’t really CTO at all, leading to the limited selection.