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If there is no incentive to operate the network, who will sustain the infrastructure? If there is no cost to using the system, how do you prevent spam abuse?

If there is no incentive to operate the network, who will sustain the infrastructure? If there is no cost to using the system, how do you prevent spam abuse? This is what crypto solves. It doesn't have to be a get rich scheme, just issue tokens to those that run the network, and have users consume tokens when they send messages.

Cthulhu_ 3y ago
But it doesn't solve it; it just deters some of it. If all it takes is to pay money, you can wave your penis at anyone. A paid service applies a downward pressure on spam, sure, but you can't go without moderation.
- vidarh 3y ago
  I agree you still need some sort of moderation, but maybe you can ameliorate that too if you scale cost by reputation, and also let users filter by reputation. If you keep waving your penis at people, maybe soon the only people who end up talking to you are people who actually like it and volunteer moderators taking the money to see if you're worth reporting... I don't know, it'd be hard to get the balance right, and you'd need to effectively "punish" people with a fresh identity quite harshly at first or people would just keep starting over, but I'd love to see someone try to tackle it.
- Galanwe 3y ago
  I don't quite get your point. A blockchain is just an infrastructure on top of which you run your business logic. In a sense, it's similar to what AWS would be in a centralised world. So basically, you can add whatever registration, moderation, etc. logic on top of your infrastructure layer, whether it is built upon a blockchain, AWS, self-hosted or whatnot. What blockchain gives you is something distributed, battle-tested, and some form of economics between infrastructure providers and platform users. You can still decide to mimic existing business models of, say, Google on top of it. Give users unlimited free tokens on this blockchain if they provide you read access to their messages. Of course it seems outrageous stated like that, but it's pretty much the same business model than Gmail at the end of the day, with the advantage that users not willing to share their data can just buy usage tokens if they prefer.

Cthulhu_ 3y ago

But it doesn't solve it; it just deters some of it. If all it takes is to pay money, you can wave your penis at anyone. A paid service applies a downward pressure on spam, sure, but you can't go without moderation.

vidarh 3y ago
I agree you still need some sort of moderation, but maybe you can ameliorate that too if you scale cost by reputation, and also let users filter by reputation. If you keep waving your penis at people, maybe soon the only people who end up talking to you are people who actually like it and volunteer moderators taking the money to see if you're worth reporting... I don't know, it'd be hard to get the balance right, and you'd need to effectively "punish" people with a fresh identity quite harshly at first or people would just keep starting over, but I'd love to see someone try to tackle it.
Galanwe 3y ago
I don't quite get your point. A blockchain is just an infrastructure on top of which you run your business logic. In a sense, it's similar to what AWS would be in a centralised world. So basically, you can add whatever registration, moderation, etc. logic on top of your infrastructure layer, whether it is built upon a blockchain, AWS, self-hosted or whatnot. What blockchain gives you is something distributed, battle-tested, and some form of economics between infrastructure providers and platform users. You can still decide to mimic existing business models of, say, Google on top of it. Give users unlimited free tokens on this blockchain if they provide you read access to their messages. Of course it seems outrageous stated like that, but it's pretty much the same business model than Gmail at the end of the day, with the advantage that users not willing to share their data can just buy usage tokens if they prefer.