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A specific lock and a specific wall. They don't have the right to require all locks and walls to be built with fundamental flaws so they can be broken with the

by kitd 3y ago

A specific lock and a specific wall. They don't have the right to require all locks and walls to be built with fundamental flaws so they can be broken with the tap of a hammer.

Brian_K_White 3y ago
Except for TSA locks on luggage at the airport. Which are pure placebo pretend locks that don't lock anything from anyone.
emblaegh 3y ago
If indestructible walls were feasible you bet they'd ban it.
- WJW 3y ago
  It's useless to get into an escalatory war with the government. Even if you could get an indestructible wall they can just cut off water and power, then siege your home until you come out to get food or something like that.
  - mcv 3y ago
    And they can also arrest or interrogate you without reading your encrypted message. There are plenty of ways to investigate crime that doesn't rely on breaking walls or encryption.
- hackeraccount 3y ago
  These aren't indestructible wall though. Encryption schemes used by real people in the real world are never implemented and used flawlessly. The question isn't if you can get at conversation between two law abiding people or two pedophiles - in both cases you can if you through sufficient resources at it. The question is - what's sufficient? My concern is that if you connive to make it a trivial amount of effort the temptation for Government will be to listen in on every conversation to lessen the chance of missing an important one. Further the more trivial you make it for the Government the better the chance that the not-Government will be able to listen in on any as well. If on the other hand the effort is non-trivial then the Government will need to carefully consider where to put it's effort. Obviously there's a greater chance that the effort will be misapplied and the two pedophiles will have the freedom to plot or whatever but that tends to worry me less. Note I'm an American. People run around shooting each other regularly here and I still don't think telling people they can't own a gun is a good idea so I'd take what I say with a grain of salt.
adrianN 3y ago
I believe all walls and locks can already be broken by a tap of a hammer.

by kitd 3y ago

A specific lock and a specific wall. They don't have the right to require all locks and walls to be built with fundamental flaws so they can be broken with the tap of a hammer.

Brian_K_White 3y ago

Except for TSA locks on luggage at the airport. Which are pure placebo pretend locks that don't lock anything from anyone.

emblaegh 3y ago

If indestructible walls were feasible you bet they'd ban it.

WJW 3y ago
It's useless to get into an escalatory war with the government. Even if you could get an indestructible wall they can just cut off water and power, then siege your home until you come out to get food or something like that.
- mcv 3y ago
  And they can also arrest or interrogate you without reading your encrypted message. There are plenty of ways to investigate crime that doesn't rely on breaking walls or encryption.
hackeraccount 3y ago
These aren't indestructible wall though. Encryption schemes used by real people in the real world are never implemented and used flawlessly. The question isn't if you can get at conversation between two law abiding people or two pedophiles - in both cases you can if you through sufficient resources at it. The question is - what's sufficient? My concern is that if you connive to make it a trivial amount of effort the temptation for Government will be to listen in on every conversation to lessen the chance of missing an important one. Further the more trivial you make it for the Government the better the chance that the not-Government will be able to listen in on any as well. If on the other hand the effort is non-trivial then the Government will need to carefully consider where to put it's effort. Obviously there's a greater chance that the effort will be misapplied and the two pedophiles will have the freedom to plot or whatever but that tends to worry me less. Note I'm an American. People run around shooting each other regularly here and I still don't think telling people they can't own a gun is a good idea so I'd take what I say with a grain of salt.

adrianN 3y ago

I believe all walls and locks can already be broken by a tap of a hammer.