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I will always judge Americans by the way they handled the Epstein/Maxwell case. One was painfully obviously executed by the FBI to protect pedophiles, the other

by Garvi 3y ago

I will always judge Americans by the way they handled the Epstein/Maxwell case. One was painfully obviously executed by the FBI to protect pedophiles, the other had a court proceeding where the main focus was on protecting the identities of the pedophiles. With this level of ignorance, you can even invade and devastate whole countries with the public completely ignoring it. How many here know of the thousands of dead civilians, many children, and millions displaced refugees as the result of the recent US Syria invasion? We're crossing some lines here I didn't think were crossable.

boffinAudio 3y ago
For me, it was the illegal invasion of Iraq and cold-blooded murder of 5% of its population. That burst the "American Dream" bubble for me, cold and hard. I came to see the USA for what it really is - a military junta masquerading as a republic, engaged in wide scale repression of human rights, and indeed human beings as a whole, at immense scales. Subsequent human rights violations, the existence of the utterly vile NSA, the treatment of Julian Assange - these events have merely added another layer to the shit-cake that is the USA's repressive regime, today. >thousands Millions.
cman1444 3y ago
You speak as if "Americans" as a whole group are responsible for the handling of the Epstein case. And you also have considerable certainty that the FBI killed him. Do you have evidence the rest of us don't?
- kelipso 3y ago
  Americans voted their government in. Of course they are responsible.
  - pbjtime 3y ago
    Only half the country votes for each party but they're all the same huh
    - kelipso 3y ago
      Ah yes, the "each bad incident is the other party's fault" excuse huh. Very convenient excuse whichever party you voted for. The two parties are not all that different in terms of the vast majority of policies anyway. Even if you think they are so very different, I don't see the other half of Americans doing mass protests against this or that policy. You would think if HALF of all Americans oppose something, there would be mass protests. But there are not. Meaning they don't really oppose it. Which means, yes, they are the same and very much responsible.

by Garvi 3y ago

boffinAudio 3y ago

For me, it was the illegal invasion of Iraq and cold-blooded murder of 5% of its population. That burst the "American Dream" bubble for me, cold and hard. I came to see the USA for what it really is - a military junta masquerading as a republic, engaged in wide scale repression of human rights, and indeed human beings as a whole, at immense scales. Subsequent human rights violations, the existence of the utterly vile NSA, the treatment of Julian Assange - these events have merely added another layer to the shit-cake that is the USA's repressive regime, today. >thousands Millions.

cman1444 3y ago

You speak as if "Americans" as a whole group are responsible for the handling of the Epstein case. And you also have considerable certainty that the FBI killed him. Do you have evidence the rest of us don't?

kelipso 3y ago
Americans voted their government in. Of course they are responsible.
- pbjtime 3y ago
  Only half the country votes for each party but they're all the same huh
  - kelipso 3y ago
    Ah yes, the "each bad incident is the other party's fault" excuse huh. Very convenient excuse whichever party you voted for. The two parties are not all that different in terms of the vast majority of policies anyway. Even if you think they are so very different, I don't see the other half of Americans doing mass protests against this or that policy. You would think if HALF of all Americans oppose something, there would be mass protests. But there are not. Meaning they don't really oppose it. Which means, yes, they are the same and very much responsible.