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> Have you any concerns about things like war, climate change, etc? Because physics has been quite useful for bringing these things into our reality, but seems
by dale_glass 3y ago
> Have you any concerns about things like war, climate change, etc? Because physics has been quite useful for bringing these things into our reality, but seems less so for making them go away.
Sure. But I highly doubt that philosophy holds the answer.
Like take the current conflict in Gaza. Can you imagine solving it by having both sides read books about I don't know, stoicism? I can't.
Now I'm not one of the people that thinks that technology is going to magic up a solution to that either by inventing some sort of wonder tool, or way to usher nirvana.
I think if we have a social solution to make things quiet down it's going to be more in the realm of psychology, neuroscience and behavioral studies. Meaning, using propaganda and social manipulation to convince people to stop fighting. And I think at this point we've got the track record to say that works to start a war, so maybe it can also be used in reverse.
But I don't think that's quite in the field of philosophy.
- mistermann 3y ago>Sure. But I highly doubt that philosophy holds the answer. Do you have any interest in the truth of the matter though? Can you have any, and how much? Might you have some unrealized limitations imposed upon not just your beliefs, but your forms of thinking? Perhaps considering what's at stake could offer additional motivation. >Like take the current conflict in Gaza. Can you imagine solving it by having both sides read books about I don't know, stoicism? I can't. Can science solve it, limited to Grade 10 scientific curriculum, or at all? They've certainly helped with the weaponry part. And yes, I certainly can. >Now I'm not one of the people that thinks that technology is going to magic up a solution to that either by inventing some sort of wonder tool, or way to usher nirvana. Good to hear, but I know for a fact many people think very differently. Faith in science is strong. >I think if we have a social solution to make things quiet down it's going to be more in the realm of psychology, neuroscience and behavioral studies. Meaning, using propaganda and social manipulation to convince people to stop fighting. And I think at this point we've got the track record to say that works to start a war, so maybe it can also be used in reverse. Agreed! At its best, mysticism is extremely powerful. >But I don't think that's quite in the field of philosophy. Some possible explanations: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_truth_effect https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_truth_effect https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiotics https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiotics https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture
- dale_glass 3y ago> Do you have any interest in the truth of the matter though? Truth of which matter? > Can science solve it, limited to Grade 10 scientific curriculum, or at all? They've certainly helped with the weaponry part. I mean, a conflict certainly can end if everyone on one side of it dies, but I don't think that's quite the sort of solution one expects in a discussion about philosophy. > And yes, I certainly can. Do tell.
- mistermann 3y ago> Truth of which matter? Whether philosophy holds the answer. I literally quoted the text above my reply. > I mean, a conflict certainly can end if everyone on one side of it dies, but I don't think that's quite the sort of solution one expects in a discussion about philosophy. No need to answer the question if you find it uncomfortable. > Do tell. Loose lips sink ships.