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I'm finding this difficult to follow. As far as I can tell: 1) Denmark partners with NSA for wiretap (presumably while Findsen/Frederiksen are head(s) of the r

I'm finding this difficult to follow. As far as I can tell: 1) Denmark partners with NSA for wiretap (presumably while Findsen/Frederiksen are head(s) of the respective agency) 2) Whistleblower thinks agency is overstepping its legal bounds in wiretap collection, files complaint and begins internal investigation 3) Agency dismisses results of internal investigation, tells whistleblower to drop it. Whistleblower subsequently goes to independent/external oversight body for investigation. 4) External oversight body publishes conclusion that agency illegally surveilled the entire country. 5) Findsen/Frederiksen arrested for allegedly disclosing details of the wiretap deal to various people (journalists/family/friends). I don't get it. What's the connection between the whistleblower and the "leaks"? Does the government need a sacrificial lamb for the illegal surveillance but they can't prosecute Findsen for that, so they're coming up with some alternate charges to placate the public? As an aside, I have no sympathy for a spy boss whinging that he was under surveillance when (assuming what the whistleblower is saying is true), he was fine with putting everybody in the whole country through practically the same thing.

Svip 3y ago
You got it... somewhat wrong. The NSA wiretap has been in effect since about the late 1990s, long before Findsen and Frederiksen held any position on the matter. The Snowden leaks in 2014 revealed this. So in a sense, it was already public knowledge. But then it was sort of re-leaked around 2020. The accusation is that Findsen and Frederiksen leaked this information to journalists and the public. The watchdog situation is technically a different matter, but the theory is that Findsen is being hit with these accusations of the leaks as revenge for the other thing. Though, I am not sure how true that theory is, but this is how these two things come up as seemingly related.
- frontalier 3y ago
  Edward Snowden leaks happened in 2013.
  - Svip 3y ago
    The details of the leaks were published slowly over several months. The one revealing the Danish-NSA partnership came out in 2014.[1] [1] https://www.information.dk/indland/2014/06/snowden-dokumenter-afsloerer-dansk-partnerskab-nsa https://www.information.dk/indland/2014/06/snowden-dokumente...
- mistrial9 3y ago
  > So in a sense, it was already public knowledge. this is motivated reasoning, or just out of touch
- deleted 3y ago
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Svip 3y ago

You got it... somewhat wrong. The NSA wiretap has been in effect since about the late 1990s, long before Findsen and Frederiksen held any position on the matter. The Snowden leaks in 2014 revealed this. So in a sense, it was already public knowledge. But then it was sort of re-leaked around 2020. The accusation is that Findsen and Frederiksen leaked this information to journalists and the public. The watchdog situation is technically a different matter, but the theory is that Findsen is being hit with these accusations of the leaks as revenge for the other thing. Though, I am not sure how true that theory is, but this is how these two things come up as seemingly related.

frontalier 3y ago
Edward Snowden leaks happened in 2013.
- Svip 3y ago
  The details of the leaks were published slowly over several months. The one revealing the Danish-NSA partnership came out in 2014.[1] [1] https://www.information.dk/indland/2014/06/snowden-dokumenter-afsloerer-dansk-partnerskab-nsa https://www.information.dk/indland/2014/06/snowden-dokumente...
mistrial9 3y ago
> So in a sense, it was already public knowledge. this is motivated reasoning, or just out of touch
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