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“ All that said, the fight against crime isn’t one that can ever truly be won.” This is something that most people don’t understand and fail to accept. The hum

“ All that said, the fight against crime isn’t one that can ever truly be won.” This is something that most people don’t understand and fail to accept. The human species for millennia has been fighting, stealing, rapping, killing and kept doing bad things to each other. This is in our nature and will never change. No matter how much moderation, AI checks, safety measures and good “players” exist, there will always be bad actors with new ways to abuse/misuse your service. This is a sad fact we all need to accept :-(

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Eisenstein 3y ago
We can't stop genuinely sick people from committing crimes because they want to, but it is entirely possible to reduce the motivation for many crimes. Removing motivation is usually about economics, policy, removing access or ability, and whatever the word is for making it hard via structures (example: a company with a culture of 'look the other way' will make it easy to commit white collar crimes). Combine that with a rule of law which treats all people equally and ensures that even small offenders get caught will make most people not consider it. The 'punishment' need not be harsh as long as the perpetrator is found. There is good evidence that it is the likelyhood of being being caught that deters crime much more than the sentence. The first thing we could do is remove laws which make people criminals for doing things that are not viewed as criminal. One of the reasons prohibition was so terrible for American culture was that it make most adults into de facto criminals for doing something they viewed as normal. Once everyone is a criminal then many people are acclimated to it and see all laws as 'if I don't get caught, then who cares?'. That said, if someone really wants to rape someone no law in the world is going to stop them from doing it, and someone who is in a jealous rage will not be pacified by laws either.
anhner 3y ago
Have you read the article? It feels like you are defending the very idea the author is fighting against. Yes, we must accept that fact, and no, we must not let it affect our freedoms and our lives.
- NKosmatos 3y ago
  Yes, I did read it (in fact I always first read the HN posts and then comment). I fully agree with the author, the introduction of moderation/censorship is not in the right direction and we shouldn't introduce mandatory measures to monitor and restrict activities based on what might happen and how something can be misused. On the other hand we have to acknowledge that some things/situations are not so easy to judge and human nature plays a very important role in this. I'm sad about this realization of how our society is behaving and on how our lives are affected, but there is no easy way out.

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Eisenstein 3y ago

We can't stop genuinely sick people from committing crimes because they want to, but it is entirely possible to reduce the motivation for many crimes. Removing motivation is usually about economics, policy, removing access or ability, and whatever the word is for making it hard via structures (example: a company with a culture of 'look the other way' will make it easy to commit white collar crimes). Combine that with a rule of law which treats all people equally and ensures that even small offenders get caught will make most people not consider it. The 'punishment' need not be harsh as long as the perpetrator is found. There is good evidence that it is the likelyhood of being being caught that deters crime much more than the sentence. The first thing we could do is remove laws which make people criminals for doing things that are not viewed as criminal. One of the reasons prohibition was so terrible for American culture was that it make most adults into de facto criminals for doing something they viewed as normal. Once everyone is a criminal then many people are acclimated to it and see all laws as 'if I don't get caught, then who cares?'. That said, if someone really wants to rape someone no law in the world is going to stop them from doing it, and someone who is in a jealous rage will not be pacified by laws either.

anhner 3y ago

Have you read the article? It feels like you are defending the very idea the author is fighting against. Yes, we must accept that fact, and no, we must not let it affect our freedoms and our lives.

NKosmatos 3y ago
Yes, I did read it (in fact I always first read the HN posts and then comment). I fully agree with the author, the introduction of moderation/censorship is not in the right direction and we shouldn't introduce mandatory measures to monitor and restrict activities based on what might happen and how something can be misused. On the other hand we have to acknowledge that some things/situations are not so easy to judge and human nature plays a very important role in this. I'm sad about this realization of how our society is behaving and on how our lives are affected, but there is no easy way out.