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> how many were settlers > settler colonial Dehumanizing buzzwords. People who were born somewhere are not "settlers". It implies they had some other choice a
by hackerlight 3y ago
> how many were settlers
> settler colonial
Dehumanizing buzzwords. People who were born somewhere are not "settlers". It implies they had some other choice about where to be born. Anyone born somewhere has an equal right to be there as anyone else.
Russians "settlers" born in Crimea have every right to live in Crimea even if their grandparents came there due to Stalin's colonial policies against the Tartars. White or Asian "settlers" born in the US have every right to live there even if they are on lands that were originally stolen from the Native Americans. And so on.
But we all know what you really mean. It's only the Israeli "settlers" that deserve what they get. The Jews who were kicked out of all the neighboring Arab countries and had their previous houses and lands "settled" in and became refugees in Israel with nowhere else to go can eat dust. The Jews who were living in Palestine/Israel before the creation of Israel, and their children, can also be classified as "settlers". We know what you really mean behind this soup of buzzwords.
> And, Israel does not have the right to defend itself.
Rhetorical language games. Should all 9 million Israelis be killed because they are "settlers"? If you answer "no", then you disprove your own claim. If you answer "yes", then you discredit yourself more than I could ever have done.
I'm far from being unabashedly pro-Israel, you can see my comment history here for yourself. But this buzzword-laden dehumanizing language needs to be called out.
- k99x55 3y agoThose settlers do know the history (or should know) and they do know its stolen land. And many did fight in the military defending the Apartheid system. And they know they are not willing to share with native Palestinians. I don't mean Hamas has the right to kill civilians, but what reaction are we to expect? Flowers and gifts? Come on. Yes, Israel does not have the right to defend itself against Palestinians. >Should all 9 million Israelis be killed because they are "settlers" No one said that.
- hackerlight 3y agoIt's such an illiberal, dehumanizing and racist perspective that an Israeli that was born in that land is less justified of being there than a Palestinian, just because of something their parents or grandparents did. If only they had different genes.
- edanm 3y ago> Yes, Israel does not have the right to defend itself against Palestinians. So just to be clear, a Palestinian is totally within his rights to come over and murder me, my children, and the rest of my family, because... why? Because I was born in Israel and haven't moved to another country voluntarily, despite actually not being legally allowed to move to another country since I was born in Israel and only have Israeli citizenship? I mean that sincerely, in my position, what do you think I did that justifies someone coming over and killing me?