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This predates me, but the toys we had to play on back in the 70s and 80s weren't much different. I feel like many things have been tamed down here in the state

This predates me, but the toys we had to play on back in the 70s and 80s weren't much different. I feel like many things have been tamed down here in the states, litigious people are likely a large part of it.

sudobash1 3y ago
> litigious people I think the blame lies even harder on insurance corporations. Medical bills are expensive, and insurance would love to externalize the blame (and costs) as much as possible.
- beenBoutIT 3y ago
  When America (inevitably) makes the logical move to a singe-payer healthcare system maybe our civil liability rules will change as a result. EU countries have public attractions that Americans couldn't dream of being allowed to experience without signing a stack of waivers beforehand.
  - sudobash1 3y ago
    There are some areas that have specific carve-outs to limit liability for inherently risky activities. For example agri-tourism in Oregon. If someone gets hurt or even killed on a hayride at a farm (eg), the farmer is not liable (with some exceptions). Hence when we go to a u-cut Christmas tree farm, they hand us and our kids saws, let us hop on a tractor trailer with them, and go chop a tree without signing anything. https://oregon.public.law/statutes/ors_30.673 https://oregon.public.law/statutes/ors_30.673
bluGill 3y ago
The 1990s were the worse, then regulators realized kids were not playing on the new stuff and changed the rules so fun stuff can be around again. Things are safer, but we focus more on safe surfaces to fall on, and allowing climbing only to heights that are high but not too high.
aantix 3y ago
Seems like when I was growing up, there was just a community of neighbors that watched all of the kids as if they were their own. But now if you let your kid play or walk independently, you get a lot of “why aren’t you watching your kid closer?” It’s a strange shift.
Cyphase 3y ago
Do you mean the 70's and 80's predate you, and you were using "we" in a general sense? Or do you mean that this _dates_ you, as in reveals how old you are, having been around in the 70's and 80's? Just a friendly nitpick. :)
- jmspring 3y ago
  It was an autocorrect, you are correct. "It probably dates me"... good times.
mikestew 3y ago
...litigious people are likely a large part of it. That, and let's face it: lawn darts were just a matter of time before someone took one to the head. There were some truly bad ideas back then.

sudobash1 3y ago

> litigious people I think the blame lies even harder on insurance corporations. Medical bills are expensive, and insurance would love to externalize the blame (and costs) as much as possible.

beenBoutIT 3y ago
When America (inevitably) makes the logical move to a singe-payer healthcare system maybe our civil liability rules will change as a result. EU countries have public attractions that Americans couldn't dream of being allowed to experience without signing a stack of waivers beforehand.
- sudobash1 3y ago
  There are some areas that have specific carve-outs to limit liability for inherently risky activities. For example agri-tourism in Oregon. If someone gets hurt or even killed on a hayride at a farm (eg), the farmer is not liable (with some exceptions). Hence when we go to a u-cut Christmas tree farm, they hand us and our kids saws, let us hop on a tractor trailer with them, and go chop a tree without signing anything. https://oregon.public.law/statutes/ors_30.673 https://oregon.public.law/statutes/ors_30.673

bluGill 3y ago

The 1990s were the worse, then regulators realized kids were not playing on the new stuff and changed the rules so fun stuff can be around again. Things are safer, but we focus more on safe surfaces to fall on, and allowing climbing only to heights that are high but not too high.

aantix 3y ago

Seems like when I was growing up, there was just a community of neighbors that watched all of the kids as if they were their own. But now if you let your kid play or walk independently, you get a lot of “why aren’t you watching your kid closer?” It’s a strange shift.

Cyphase 3y ago

Do you mean the 70's and 80's predate you, and you were using "we" in a general sense? Or do you mean that this _dates_ you, as in reveals how old you are, having been around in the 70's and 80's? Just a friendly nitpick. :)

jmspring 3y ago
It was an autocorrect, you are correct. "It probably dates me"... good times.

mikestew 3y ago

...litigious people are likely a large part of it. That, and let's face it: lawn darts were just a matter of time before someone took one to the head. There were some truly bad ideas back then.