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> so I just use SMS Get out of this 3rd world country *smug_face* Honestly I do remember when I used the SMS lately - a once this year to contact a person who
by justsomehnguy 3y ago
> so I just use SMS
Get out of this 3rd world country *smug_face*
Honestly I do remember when I used the SMS lately - a once this year to contact a person whose contact was relayed to me through 3rd party. As soon as we confirmed what we are those who we are we moved on to Telegram. In the retrospect I should had just added his number to the address book and I would had seen what he is available on Telegram from the start, but I was in quite stressed state at that moment (hence the need to contact him, but that's the other story). But before that? Don't have an idea.
But overall people here just outright tell you on what platform they prefer to talk[0] from the start so you know it and your 'I need to ask people to install...' sounds... quite weird. Between all the people and different social media there is always at least WhatsApp or Telegram what everyone have.[2]
Another reason people have these apps is what they:
a) work; sure SMS do work, but sending a photo? Video? No way
b) priceless - sure, you pay for the traffic plan, but you pay for it anyway and it's extremely common now for providers to even give out a 'free' traffic for messengers. SMS still do cost money (at least for the crossprovider messages) and MMS... let's forget what MMS even existed. They are ugly and cost a ton. I'm not even sure young people, like younger than 25 even know what MMS is.
c) all messengers provide a way to conveniently send photos, voice messages (UGH!), video messages and place voice and video calls. All the things which are unavailable with SMS.
Honestly, after moving to 3G and further SMS doesn't even make sense - they are emulated on all levels and no longer a physical protocol. You can replace it with POEM (plain old email messaging) and it would be better on all occasions[1]
So yes, using SMS as anything is just another pointless American thing, along with price tags without tax and gaps under toilet stalls. Everyone else moved on because it's better. But because "it's the way" they "need it"(tm) and hence are quite defensive of anything what can even remotely change the status quo.
[0] and Instagram doesn't use the phone numbers, so adding to the phone book wouldn't help with autodiscover?
[1] hey, remember sms2email gateways? Email2sms?
[2] and amusingly enough I don't think most of people even knows what iMessage is, because even on iPhones they do use other messenger apps.
- mcphage 3y ago> Everyone else moved on because it's better. But because "it's the way" they "need it"(tm) and hence are quite defensive of anything what can even remotely change the status quo. I mean, Telegram and WhatsApp are all available in the US. I don't quite get your sense of smug superiority about which specific flavor of multinational corporation sponsored messaging app you use.
- justsomehnguy 3y ago> are all available in the US Did you read the thread? People up there literally question why they need to bother with anything else than SMS and iMessage. More so, they in GTFOMyLawn mode about using anything else than iMessage. > which specific flavor of multinational corporation sponsored messaging app There is one difference between Signal/Telegram/WhatsApp and iMessage. Do I need to spell it out? > sense of smug That was about using SMS, not iMessage and had a lot of implied /s.
- jwestbury 3y ago> So yes, using SMS as anything is just another pointless American thing, The thing you're not grasping here is that SMS exists on every phone. WhatsApp does not. Signal does not. Telegram does not. Communication benefits massively from network effects. In the US, most people do not use third-party messaging apps. Those who do -- and I have Signal, Telegram, and WhatsApp on my phone, so I'm in this group -- are in a minority. People who have multiple messaging apps are even more in the minority. For Americans, third-party messaging services don't offer any significant benefits, either. Most people can't care about encryption. And I can easily send various media -- photos, videos, etc. -- via the default text messaging app on my phone. The cost is transparent to Americans, because phone plans have always been expensive -- and, frankly, they wouldn't get cheaper without free SMS/MMS, which is a point driven home by broadband prices (which are equally expensive in the US in comparison, despite not having this artificial cross-provider SMS cost).