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Can you please expand on that? Because if I remember correctly, at least in Eastern Europe jam is made by boiling fruits with sugar, simmered down until it thic

Can you please expand on that? Because if I remember correctly, at least in Eastern Europe jam is made by boiling fruits with sugar, simmered down until it thickens. What boxes is exactly homemade jam ticking?

abdullahkhalids 3y ago
Indeed. If you don't add the sugar, its group 1: minimally processed. If you add industrially made sugar (a group 2 item), it becomes group 3: processed.
- marcus0x62 3y ago
  This commercial jam[0] is made with exactly the same ingredients as would be used to make home-made jam. It is Nova Group 4. The problem with the group 4 definition is it is a mix of things that are genuinely harmful, things that are completely irrelevant to the health of a given food item, and broad, vague definitions that could be used to describe almost any prepared food item as “ultra-processed” if one were so inclined. 0 - https://world.openfoodfacts.org/product/0096619217939/organic-strawberry-spread-kirkland-signature https://world.openfoodfacts.org/product/0096619217939/organi...
  - abdullahkhalids 3y ago
    I make jam at home. I usually just heat the fruit (strawberries, raspberries etc) alone, with not even added sugar. That's group 1. If I add sugar, it becomes group 3. If I did add pectin for some reason, it becomes group 4. Yes, I agree that group 4 is very broad, but I think as an initial attempt its good. Breaking things down into further groups is going to confuse people a lot more, especially because there are no distinct categories here. Too much overlap. Just asking people to eat less of group 4 is a much more reasonable public health objective.
    - marcus0x62 3y ago
      > I make jam at home. I usually just heat the fruit (strawberries, raspberries etc) alone, with not even added sugar. You'll never guess what is extracted from the fruit when you do this.

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Can you please expand on that? Because if I remember correctly, at least in Eastern Europe jam is made by boiling fruits with sugar, simmered down until it thic

by GeoAtreides 3y ago

abdullahkhalids 3y ago
Indeed. If you don't add the sugar, its group 1: minimally processed. If you add industrially made sugar (a group 2 item), it becomes group 3: processed.
- marcus0x62 3y ago
  This commercial jam[0] is made with exactly the same ingredients as would be used to make home-made jam. It is Nova Group 4. The problem with the group 4 definition is it is a mix of things that are genuinely harmful, things that are completely irrelevant to the health of a given food item, and broad, vague definitions that could be used to describe almost any prepared food item as “ultra-processed” if one were so inclined. 0 - https://world.openfoodfacts.org/product/0096619217939/organic-strawberry-spread-kirkland-signature https://world.openfoodfacts.org/product/0096619217939/organi...
  - abdullahkhalids 3y ago
    I make jam at home. I usually just heat the fruit (strawberries, raspberries etc) alone, with not even added sugar. That's group 1. If I add sugar, it becomes group 3. If I did add pectin for some reason, it becomes group 4. Yes, I agree that group 4 is very broad, but I think as an initial attempt its good. Breaking things down into further groups is going to confuse people a lot more, especially because there are no distinct categories here. Too much overlap. Just asking people to eat less of group 4 is a much more reasonable public health objective.
    - marcus0x62 3y ago
      > I make jam at home. I usually just heat the fruit (strawberries, raspberries etc) alone, with not even added sugar. You'll never guess what is extracted from the fruit when you do this.