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> Unemployment rate tends to hover above 20% and I think it has the highest rate of students dropping out of basic education. The first claim is true, but ther

by jvican 3y ago

> Unemployment rate tends to hover above 20% and I think it has the highest rate of students dropping out of basic education. The first claim is true, but there's a lot of under-reported economic activity, and a lot of fraud (people claiming they don't work when they actually do), so the unemployment rate figure can't be trusted. Your second claim around the highest rate of students dropping out of basic education needs a citation.

rewmie 3y ago
> but there's a lot of under-reported economic activity, I'm sorry, but that's just hand-waving over the problem to pretend it isn't there. > Your second claim around the highest rate of students dropping out of basic education needs a citation. I learned that fact because the Spanish Government posts tv ad campaigns on how Spain has the highest rate if students dropping out of basic education, and how they should instead explore options such as pursuing trade education. If you really are interested on the topic, you could start by checking what OECD has to say about Spain's education problem, including how 27% of its 25-34 yo cohort (i.e., the latest generation entering the workforce) did not complete basic studies and does not have postsecondary education. Spain also boasts a NEET rate of 17%. https://www.oecd.org/education/education-at-a-glance/ https://www.oecd.org/education/education-at-a-glance/ Spain's astronomical dropout rate is not a secret. The issue was even reported in Swedish news outlets. https://www.thelocal.es/20221003/spain-has-the-eus-highest-rate-of-high-school-dropouts https://www.thelocal.es/20221003/spain-has-the-eus-highest-r... It's also noteworthy that Spain's horeca industry started to rely on heavy influxes of immigrants from South America to meet their demand, in spite of Spain having one of the highest unemployment rates in Europe.

by jvican 3y ago

rewmie 3y ago

> but there's a lot of under-reported economic activity, I'm sorry, but that's just hand-waving over the problem to pretend it isn't there. > Your second claim around the highest rate of students dropping out of basic education needs a citation. I learned that fact because the Spanish Government posts tv ad campaigns on how Spain has the highest rate if students dropping out of basic education, and how they should instead explore options such as pursuing trade education. If you really are interested on the topic, you could start by checking what OECD has to say about Spain's education problem, including how 27% of its 25-34 yo cohort (i.e., the latest generation entering the workforce) did not complete basic studies and does not have postsecondary education. Spain also boasts a NEET rate of 17%. https://www.oecd.org/education/education-at-a-glance/ https://www.oecd.org/education/education-at-a-glance/ Spain's astronomical dropout rate is not a secret. The issue was even reported in Swedish news outlets. https://www.thelocal.es/20221003/spain-has-the-eus-highest-rate-of-high-school-dropouts https://www.thelocal.es/20221003/spain-has-the-eus-highest-r... It's also noteworthy that Spain's horeca industry started to rely on heavy influxes of immigrants from South America to meet their demand, in spite of Spain having one of the highest unemployment rates in Europe.