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Likewise. People also seem to think the Palestinians all support Hamas, which uses the Palestinians as human shields. Gaza did vote for Hamas in 2006, but that

by nailer 3y ago

Likewise. People also seem to think the Palestinians all support Hamas, which uses the Palestinians as human shields. Gaza did vote for Hamas in 2006, but that was 18 years ago. https://x.com/JituChaudhary25/status/1720097411547500652 https://x.com/JituChaudhary25/status/1720097411547500652 Keep in mind Hamas kill Fatah and other opposition members, so speaking out against them is dangerous. But I have about 10 other videos of similar.

paulddraper 3y ago
Hamas polled at 53% support in 2021. [1] Just one data point, but provide contrary data if you have it. [1] https://apnews.com/article/hamas-middle-east-science-32095d8e1323fc1cad819c34da08fd87 https://apnews.com/article/hamas-middle-east-science-32095d8...
- serialthrilla2 3y ago
  That's interesting and sad that they're polling so high. It makes me question what culpability a nation has with the actions of its government. If "let the politicians run politics" or (they're a mean mob so we don't risk putting up a fight) is the thought of the citizens and then a war is started, as civilians are we indemnified or responsible?
  - paulddraper 3y ago
    A June 2023 poll had 70% support for "armed attacks against Israeli civilians inside Israel." [1] It is a sobering truth -- but an objective truth -- that many Palestinians simply want to kill Israelis/Westerners. [1] https://pcpsr.org/sites/default/files/Poll%2088%20English%20full%20text%20June%202023.pdf https://pcpsr.org/sites/default/files/Poll%2088%20English%20...
    - activescott 3y ago
      It is question number 70, not 70%. Below copied from page 25 of the document you linked: Q70) Concerning armed attacks against Israeli civilians inside Israel, I.... Total West Bank Gaza Strip 1) Strongly support 23% 16% 34% 2) support 34% 32% 36% 3) oppose 27% 34% 17% 4) Strongly oppose 11% 10% 12% 5) DK/NA 11% 10% 12% It is notable that "Strongly support" is twice as high in the Gaza Strip, where the Israeli military has built a wall around it and has maintained an indefinite ongoing land, sea, and air blockade on since 2007.
      - nailer 3y ago
        Israel and Egypt. But otherwise your post is accurate.
      - edanm 3y ago
        umm.. it is both question 70 and 70%. The category Strongly support and support (as opposed to the next category, oppose) are 34%+36%, which sum to 70%.

by nailer 3y ago

paulddraper 3y ago

Hamas polled at 53% support in 2021. [1] Just one data point, but provide contrary data if you have it. [1] https://apnews.com/article/hamas-middle-east-science-32095d8e1323fc1cad819c34da08fd87 https://apnews.com/article/hamas-middle-east-science-32095d8...

serialthrilla2 3y ago
That's interesting and sad that they're polling so high. It makes me question what culpability a nation has with the actions of its government. If "let the politicians run politics" or (they're a mean mob so we don't risk putting up a fight) is the thought of the citizens and then a war is started, as civilians are we indemnified or responsible?
- paulddraper 3y ago
  A June 2023 poll had 70% support for "armed attacks against Israeli civilians inside Israel." [1] It is a sobering truth -- but an objective truth -- that many Palestinians simply want to kill Israelis/Westerners. [1] https://pcpsr.org/sites/default/files/Poll%2088%20English%20full%20text%20June%202023.pdf https://pcpsr.org/sites/default/files/Poll%2088%20English%20...
  - activescott 3y ago
    It is question number 70, not 70%. Below copied from page 25 of the document you linked: Q70) Concerning armed attacks against Israeli civilians inside Israel, I.... Total West Bank Gaza Strip 1) Strongly support 23% 16% 34% 2) support 34% 32% 36% 3) oppose 27% 34% 17% 4) Strongly oppose 11% 10% 12% 5) DK/NA 11% 10% 12% It is notable that "Strongly support" is twice as high in the Gaza Strip, where the Israeli military has built a wall around it and has maintained an indefinite ongoing land, sea, and air blockade on since 2007.
    - nailer 3y ago
      Israel and Egypt. But otherwise your post is accurate.
    - edanm 3y ago
      umm.. it is both question 70 and 70%. The category Strongly support and support (as opposed to the next category, oppose) are 34%+36%, which sum to 70%.