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I think there's a difference between mutilating someone's limbs and hitting them with the back of a gun and UN's definition doesn't accurately describe that dif
by hotdogscout 3y ago
I think there's a difference between mutilating someone's limbs and hitting them with the back of a gun and UN's definition doesn't accurately describe that difference.
- giraffe_lady 3y agoHave you experienced any of these things or witnessed them up close? I think one big thing the waterboarding era should have taught us that it's hard to accurately gauge the horror of a technique from a distance. And that torturers take advantage of this tension.
- hotdogscout 3y agoI've been beaten more times than I can count by gangs as a child for being effeminate (one of them breaking my right arm that's still crooked) and stripped naked once. I can post photographic evidence if it's ok by HN's rules. I am fine with it, apart from my arm being crooked I don't mind, I even think it made me a more resilient person. I know my feelings can be offensive but I'm being honest. I empathize with people that have been traumatized by this kind of violence but I wasn't. My father was also beaten by the police as a kid for playing with a wind vane because it resembles a swastika. I still think the UN fails by putting limb mutilation and immolation under the same category of being beaten with the back of a gun.
- giraffe_lady 3y agoYou don't need to prove it. My point is that what's torture depends more on the psychological context than the type or extent of the injury. FWIW I got a bunch of teeth knocked out by a cop with a baton and I'm haunted by it. It wasn't a melee or brawl or chaotic situation: I was under his complete control, he lined up the shot and took it. It felt like torture to me, and I'm happy that the UN agrees.