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Is everyone saying that `the lowball offers come because of the market and that he should just accept it` not a developer? I am often surprised how little symp
by swang 15y ago
Is everyone saying that `the lowball offers come because of the market and that he should just accept it` not a developer?
I am often surprised how little sympathy photographers get in places like HN. Yes, it is way easier to take photographs as the cost of learning has dropped significantly. But that doesn't mean that there aren't photographers who make great pictures and should get paid, especially if the company that wants to use it is a big enough company to have a budget to sell 20,000 calendars.
I disagree with the notion though that anyone can reproduce the photos he took (assuming the header image is one he did take) without investing a significant amount of time and resources into learning about photography. It's not as though he went into the mountains, waited for near sunset and then snapped the photo and went home. It obviously took some degree of planning and effort to do. I like to think I'm at least a decent photographer but I can tell you that even though I have equipment that was probably unimaginable in the 90s, I'm far from being able to take pictures of that kind of quality.
I know most software developers _hate_ it when clients quote them something like $100 to redesign an online store and I hear this argument all the time: "If the programmer in some third world country can do it for $100, why can't you? That's what the market bears."
Because what you're giving them at least (hopefully) is some quality engineering and your previous experiences that is worth more than what the $100 that other developer is charging.
If that company doesn't want to pay $X for the photographer's picture, it's very simple, they don't have to use it.
If a client doesn't want you to pay $Y for an online store, they don't have to hire you.
I don't get why there is always a big backlash against the photographer in these articles who are trying to make some money just like the rest of us. It's not as though he is scamming anyone.
- ceol 15y ago> especially if the company that wants to use it is a big enough company to have a budget to sell 20,000 calendars. This is what I don't get. The budget for the images— the reason people would buy the calendar in the first place— was so outrageously low.
- frobozz 15y ago> I don't get why there is always a big backlash against the photographer in these articles ... I believe that it is because they often close by exhorting everyone not to give away photos for free, or sell them for third world prices. They assert that hobbyists and part-timers are at fault for destroying the careers of those photography professionals that rely on image sales to put food on the table. Just as you are free to decline a $100 offer, I should be free to accept it. Similarly, you should be free to attempt to persuade potential clients that your $1000 service or item is ten times as good as my $100 service or item. What is inappropriate is if you tell me that I shouldn't charge $100 because you're trying to make $1000 out of the deal.