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Disinformation is an Orwellian term that equates to "opposition political speech and interests". When was it officially enacted that bureaucracies, universitie

by PKop 3y ago

Disinformation is an Orwellian term that equates to "opposition political speech and interests". When was it officially enacted that bureaucracies, universities, or social media corporation were the arbiters of public discourse? What is disinformation exactly? I can remember very recently when later proven to be true "information" around COVID was determined at the time to be some insane verboten "disinformation" and was banned on social media platforms. Things like efficacy of masks, whether vaccines prevented the spread or any other manner of debatable political discussions. But who cares if you think this or that thing is false? Of course right-wingers are opposed to violations of their 1st amendment rights. Because being able to communicate freely (or not) has direct bearing on political power.

303uru 3y ago
So tired of right wingers trying to rewrite history. Shouting "it's a China lab leak", "masks don't work", "masks make it so you can't breathe", "muzzle muzzle muzzle", "the mRNA vaccine is activated by 5G to kill you!!!", etc... is disinformation. Some of it may even in retrospect be true or partially true, but it was being disseminated as fact with zero evidence to back it. Right wingers love shouting FIRE FIRE FIRE to incite fear.
- PKop 3y ago
  >Some of it may even in retrospect be true or partially true Insanity lol. A person that thinks like this is exactly the type of political danger it is prudent to fear and oppose. Again, "disinformation" is nearly meaningless. That you oppose or disagree with one's opinions or political views is not grounds for that person to be OK with you censoring them. In fact they should view you as a political enemy. It is the fundamental rationale for the 1st amendment. The China lab-leak is likely true. Masks don't work. What a weird position to hold whereby completely rational views are legitimate grounds for complete subversion of the 1st amendment. This is Dunning–Kruger-like in it's complete inversion of who should be deemed crazy, stupid, or politically dangerous.
  - 303uru 3y ago
    >Masks Don't Work Right, disinformation then. >High-quality studies have shown that use of face masks in the community is associated with reduced transmission of SARS-CoV-2 and is likely to be an important component of an effective response to a future respiratory threat. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2811136 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle... Again, feel free to make claims with evidence. I'll even congratulate you for getting it. >The China lab-leak is likely true. Maybe, maybe not, we may never know. Funny how you threw in "likely", when every MAGA hat wearing idiot was shouting it with certainty two years ago with spittle flying out of their mouth at me and every other healthcare worker. Dunning-Kruger don't mean what you think it means either.
    - thunky 3y ago
      > > The China lab-leak is likely true. > Maybe, maybe not, we may never know Do you consider those that discredited or supressed the lab leak theory to be spreaders of "disinformation" and worthy of censorship as well?
- jtbayly 3y ago
  Have you already forgotten that saying masks worked was once banned as misinformation? The point PKop is making is that "disinformation" is a terrible basis on which to censor people... unless you are content just getting rid of free speech and saying, "Whoever is in power determines what people are allowed to say and think."

by PKop 3y ago

303uru 3y ago

So tired of right wingers trying to rewrite history. Shouting "it's a China lab leak", "masks don't work", "masks make it so you can't breathe", "muzzle muzzle muzzle", "the mRNA vaccine is activated by 5G to kill you!!!", etc... is disinformation. Some of it may even in retrospect be true or partially true, but it was being disseminated as fact with zero evidence to back it. Right wingers love shouting FIRE FIRE FIRE to incite fear.

PKop 3y ago
>Some of it may even in retrospect be true or partially true Insanity lol. A person that thinks like this is exactly the type of political danger it is prudent to fear and oppose. Again, "disinformation" is nearly meaningless. That you oppose or disagree with one's opinions or political views is not grounds for that person to be OK with you censoring them. In fact they should view you as a political enemy. It is the fundamental rationale for the 1st amendment. The China lab-leak is likely true. Masks don't work. What a weird position to hold whereby completely rational views are legitimate grounds for complete subversion of the 1st amendment. This is Dunning–Kruger-like in it's complete inversion of who should be deemed crazy, stupid, or politically dangerous.
- 303uru 3y ago
  >Masks Don't Work Right, disinformation then. >High-quality studies have shown that use of face masks in the community is associated with reduced transmission of SARS-CoV-2 and is likely to be an important component of an effective response to a future respiratory threat. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2811136 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle... Again, feel free to make claims with evidence. I'll even congratulate you for getting it. >The China lab-leak is likely true. Maybe, maybe not, we may never know. Funny how you threw in "likely", when every MAGA hat wearing idiot was shouting it with certainty two years ago with spittle flying out of their mouth at me and every other healthcare worker. Dunning-Kruger don't mean what you think it means either.
  - thunky 3y ago
    > > The China lab-leak is likely true. > Maybe, maybe not, we may never know Do you consider those that discredited or supressed the lab leak theory to be spreaders of "disinformation" and worthy of censorship as well?
jtbayly 3y ago
Have you already forgotten that saying masks worked was once banned as misinformation? The point PKop is making is that "disinformation" is a terrible basis on which to censor people... unless you are content just getting rid of free speech and saying, "Whoever is in power determines what people are allowed to say and think."