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The cheapest iPhone (SE) for sale is $429 on apple.com Not to mention you can get slightly used iPhones that work well for potentially cheaper. I don't think

The cheapest iPhone (SE) for sale is $429 on apple.com Not to mention you can get slightly used iPhones that work well for potentially cheaper. I don't think the "can afford" point is relevant anymore unless you're talking about the latest/greatest/high-end versions.

edrxty 3y ago
Not everyone wants an iPhone, there are lots of things you can't do on them because of apple's hyper militant approach to their app store. Things like: - Terminal emulators (iSH doesn't count, it's a terrible hack) - Torrents - File management, particularly with USB flash - USB devices in general (drives, sensors, RTL-SDR, etc) - And of course, sideloading Android at least allows power users on the platform, iPhones are just devices designed to keep the dumbest possible users from inflicting self injury
- askafriend 3y ago
  99.9% of people don't know or care what any of the things on your bullet list are. Nor should they, unless they have very specific needs.
- meepmorp 3y ago
  > iPhones are just devices designed to keep the dumbest possible users Why can’t you just enjoy the platform you prefer? Why insult people who prefer something else? And, tbh, cell phones are a weird choice of thing to make part of your identity.
  - edrxty 3y ago
    Precisely. It would be great if everyone had access to the same chat networks so we don't have to form cliques around what should be dumb hardware.
    - meepmorp 3y ago
      That's entirely unrelated to the comment I was responding to, and we already have cross-platform messaging apps today.
kajecounterhack 3y ago
You can get new android phones for $200 and that's a meaningful drop in price from $429 for many families.
- influenxe 3y ago
  Everyone else can get a used iPhone 2020 in grade-A condition for $200 which gets updates til 2026.
  - extraduder_ire 3y ago
    Is there actually a plan/assurance posted by apple anywhere, or are you just basing that on their history? It'd be nice to know when I might need to replace the iphone I'm using as an extra phone.
Woshiwuja 3y ago
Yes, almost 500 when you can get a cheap android for 150/200. Thats a big price increase.

edrxty 3y ago

Not everyone wants an iPhone, there are lots of things you can't do on them because of apple's hyper militant approach to their app store. Things like: - Terminal emulators (iSH doesn't count, it's a terrible hack) - Torrents - File management, particularly with USB flash - USB devices in general (drives, sensors, RTL-SDR, etc) - And of course, sideloading Android at least allows power users on the platform, iPhones are just devices designed to keep the dumbest possible users from inflicting self injury

askafriend 3y ago
99.9% of people don't know or care what any of the things on your bullet list are. Nor should they, unless they have very specific needs.
meepmorp 3y ago
> iPhones are just devices designed to keep the dumbest possible users Why can’t you just enjoy the platform you prefer? Why insult people who prefer something else? And, tbh, cell phones are a weird choice of thing to make part of your identity.
- edrxty 3y ago
  Precisely. It would be great if everyone had access to the same chat networks so we don't have to form cliques around what should be dumb hardware.
  - meepmorp 3y ago
    That's entirely unrelated to the comment I was responding to, and we already have cross-platform messaging apps today.

kajecounterhack 3y ago

You can get new android phones for $200 and that's a meaningful drop in price from $429 for many families.

influenxe 3y ago
Everyone else can get a used iPhone 2020 in grade-A condition for $200 which gets updates til 2026.
- extraduder_ire 3y ago
  Is there actually a plan/assurance posted by apple anywhere, or are you just basing that on their history? It'd be nice to know when I might need to replace the iphone I'm using as an extra phone.

Woshiwuja 3y ago

Yes, almost 500 when you can get a cheap android for 150/200. Thats a big price increase.