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Well don't worry. You buy a premium "lifestyle tv" like a Samsung Frame, and the moment you connect it to the internet, it too slams every user interface panel

Well don't worry. You buy a premium "lifestyle tv" like a Samsung Frame, and the moment you connect it to the internet, it too slams every user interface panel full of advertising. This amazon is shit egregious, but par for the course. They're hardly the only ones. TVs are enshittified pretty badly. Thankfully my Samsung forgot those ads after wiping it to factory defaults. So now it is only connected to the apple tv, and not the rest of the internet. No network at all, never, seems to be the only winning move right now.

ska 3y ago
I think this is the real value prop of the Apple TV now for many people, particular non technical types or those who just don't want to monkey with networking etc. Usable interface and isolates your TV from the network. I met someone doing something similar with a PS5 but that seemed awkward.
aldanor 3y ago
Why connect any tv to internet?
- sneak 3y ago
  Many TVs now have dark patterns during setup that suggest initial configuration is impossible without network access. I recently set up a TV that required I scroll to the very bottom of the list of visible Wi-Fi networks to skip the network setup.
  - aldanor 3y ago
    That's pretty shady indeed. But I guess that comes from how the majority of consumers use those tvs, not discerning the screen itself from software that provides content access.
- mulmen 3y ago
  To access content.
  - aldanor 3y ago
    Why can't you access it from any of the tv boxes (ie Apple TV or any other) and just use the TV itself as one big screen, a bunch of pixels and nothing else?
    - mulmen 3y ago
      It’s built into the TV. Why buy an extra box that also shows ads?
      - SoftTalker 3y ago
        Yes, exactly. Most people (perhaps not representative of the audience here) do not want extra boxes, wires, steps, or setup. They like that it's all built into the TV. Ads are just a fact of life to them, they don't really even register as a concern.
busterarm 3y ago
I just bought a Bravia A95L and even though it's gorgeous, I see more advertising then back when I just had cable -- 20 years ago. I wasn't planning to offload everything to an HTPC when I bought this, but that's certainly my next move. And I don't know why Google TV has it in for PLEX but it buries it all the way at the end of my apps list so that I have to press like 20 buttons just to use it.
tonyedgecombe 3y ago
I've heard so many of these stories about Samsung that they are automatically rejected whenever I am buying consumer goods.

ska 3y ago

I think this is the real value prop of the Apple TV now for many people, particular non technical types or those who just don't want to monkey with networking etc. Usable interface and isolates your TV from the network. I met someone doing something similar with a PS5 but that seemed awkward.

aldanor 3y ago

Why connect any tv to internet?

sneak 3y ago
Many TVs now have dark patterns during setup that suggest initial configuration is impossible without network access. I recently set up a TV that required I scroll to the very bottom of the list of visible Wi-Fi networks to skip the network setup.
- aldanor 3y ago
  That's pretty shady indeed. But I guess that comes from how the majority of consumers use those tvs, not discerning the screen itself from software that provides content access.
mulmen 3y ago
To access content.
- aldanor 3y ago
  Why can't you access it from any of the tv boxes (ie Apple TV or any other) and just use the TV itself as one big screen, a bunch of pixels and nothing else?
  - mulmen 3y ago
    It’s built into the TV. Why buy an extra box that also shows ads?
    - SoftTalker 3y ago
      Yes, exactly. Most people (perhaps not representative of the audience here) do not want extra boxes, wires, steps, or setup. They like that it's all built into the TV. Ads are just a fact of life to them, they don't really even register as a concern.

busterarm 3y ago

I just bought a Bravia A95L and even though it's gorgeous, I see more advertising then back when I just had cable -- 20 years ago. I wasn't planning to offload everything to an HTPC when I bought this, but that's certainly my next move. And I don't know why Google TV has it in for PLEX but it buries it all the way at the end of my apps list so that I have to press like 20 buttons just to use it.

tonyedgecombe 3y ago

I've heard so many of these stories about Samsung that they are automatically rejected whenever I am buying consumer goods.