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I'm getting major "working out will make you right wing" vibes from this comment. The fundamental idea of stoicism is that I will focus on what I can control a

I'm getting major "working out will make you right wing" vibes from this comment. The fundamental idea of stoicism is that I will focus on what I can control and accept what I cannot. It only seems to ruffle the jimmies of people who want to force everyone to care about the things they care about. At the end of the day there is very little I can do about Gaza or Ukraine or Taiwan or Inflation or a million other things that people all over the world are trying to shove down my throat. What I can do things about is being a good husband and father, serving in my local community, and striving each day to be a better person and help those around me.

jmyeet 3y ago
Did you skip past "Self-improvement is fine" at the end of my comment? I wonder if you're "getting those vibes" because you're somewhere on this pipeline? Gym rats don't normally get defensive about working out IME. Working out is fine. Other forms of self-improvement are fine. Even living what you view as, for example, a "traditional" (as you interpret it) heternormative existence is also fine. It's also compatible with feminism, which is really about giving people freedom rather than assigning them gender roles. IME this only becomes a problem when you start theory-crafting, rationalizing and imposing that viewpoint on others. It's the difference between: > "I want to provide for my family with a stay-at-home wife." and > "The breakdown in society and increase in crime is due to the attack on and erosion of the traditional family. We need to enact policy to encourage ("force" in some cases) people to get and stay married, for the sake of the children." The first is making a choice for your life, which literally nobody has an issue with. If two consenting adults decide that's how they want to organize their lives, go nuts. The second is enacting policy to impose your worldview on everyone else. You see the difference? This has real-world implications like pushing legislation to withholding welfare from unmarried people (eg that may have been an abusive relationship).

jmyeet 3y ago

Did you skip past "Self-improvement is fine" at the end of my comment? I wonder if you're "getting those vibes" because you're somewhere on this pipeline? Gym rats don't normally get defensive about working out IME. Working out is fine. Other forms of self-improvement are fine. Even living what you view as, for example, a "traditional" (as you interpret it) heternormative existence is also fine. It's also compatible with feminism, which is really about giving people freedom rather than assigning them gender roles. IME this only becomes a problem when you start theory-crafting, rationalizing and imposing that viewpoint on others. It's the difference between: > "I want to provide for my family with a stay-at-home wife." and > "The breakdown in society and increase in crime is due to the attack on and erosion of the traditional family. We need to enact policy to encourage ("force" in some cases) people to get and stay married, for the sake of the children." The first is making a choice for your life, which literally nobody has an issue with. If two consenting adults decide that's how they want to organize their lives, go nuts. The second is enacting policy to impose your worldview on everyone else. You see the difference? This has real-world implications like pushing legislation to withholding welfare from unmarried people (eg that may have been an abusive relationship).