> But I gave it up because counting calories is soul sucking. In the beginning it certainly is. But once I did it for a while, I found that I had developed a m

> But I gave it up because counting calories is soul sucking. In the beginning it certainly is. But once I did it for a while, I found that I had developed a mental understanding for what various foods represented in terms of calories and could navigate it with much less effort. I started with spreadsheets and apps. IMO much of the value in calorie counting stems from those early weeks where you suddenly realize how many calories each food represents - and relative to that how filling you find them.