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I always struggled with understanding how Germans could accept Hitler. It finally clicked when I saw Trump rising to power. Of course they are extremely differe

I always struggled with understanding how Germans could accept Hitler. It finally clicked when I saw Trump rising to power. Of course they are extremely different, but seeing half a population accept (to me) obvious lies and disinterest in truth, I didn't find it so hard to believe what happened in the thirties in Germany any more.

corethree 3y ago
The struggle isn't seeing how other people fall for this. That's easy to characterize. It's easy for someone to call another person's actions stupid and move on, it happens all the time. The hard part is realizing that these people are a mirror. That their susceptibility is a reflection of your susceptibility. You look at the people who follow trump as disinterested in truth and I agree. But have you also seen the behavior of people on the other side? The modern day liberal is just as disinterested in truth as the trump following conservative. And that is the purpose of the experiment. The experiment was not conducted as an observation of "human behavior". We can already observe that by looking at the nazis. The experiment exists to tell you something about yourself.
- COM9 3y ago
  No? Maybe you are projecting but not everyone is that way. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_authoritarian_personality https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_authoritarian_per...
  - corethree 3y ago
    Mostly everyone is. How else would you explain nazis taking over the country? It was a huge majority of the country that fell for this. Unless you're trying to say only Germans are this way but that would be racist and highly against your own biases. Additionally the link you provided associates this with only right wing behavior which is, again, biased. Why would liberals or even centrists be spared from this? Makes no sense. Remember: Formalizing a term with structured definitions and formal sounding writing doesn't make that term scientifically legitimate. I can easily create a wikipedia entry for "Left-wing Gender Neurocognitive Disorder." here's one I made up with chatgpt: Symptoms and Diagnosis: Individuals diagnosed with LWGND exhibit a range of symptoms that include: - Cognitive dissonance when attempting to reconcile left-wing political ideology with personal gender identity. - Psychological distress or confusion due to perceived inconsistencies between societal gender expectations and personal beliefs. - Difficulty engaging with political activities or discussions related to gender, resulting in social or occupational impairment. Diagnosis of LWGND requires a nuanced understanding of the individual’s sociopolitical context and personal history, often involving comprehensive assessments by multidisciplinary teams of political theorists, psychologists, and neuroscientists.

corethree 3y ago

The struggle isn't seeing how other people fall for this. That's easy to characterize. It's easy for someone to call another person's actions stupid and move on, it happens all the time. The hard part is realizing that these people are a mirror. That their susceptibility is a reflection of your susceptibility. You look at the people who follow trump as disinterested in truth and I agree. But have you also seen the behavior of people on the other side? The modern day liberal is just as disinterested in truth as the trump following conservative. And that is the purpose of the experiment. The experiment was not conducted as an observation of "human behavior". We can already observe that by looking at the nazis. The experiment exists to tell you something about yourself.

COM9 3y ago
No? Maybe you are projecting but not everyone is that way. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_authoritarian_personality https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_authoritarian_per...
- corethree 3y ago
  Mostly everyone is. How else would you explain nazis taking over the country? It was a huge majority of the country that fell for this. Unless you're trying to say only Germans are this way but that would be racist and highly against your own biases. Additionally the link you provided associates this with only right wing behavior which is, again, biased. Why would liberals or even centrists be spared from this? Makes no sense. Remember: Formalizing a term with structured definitions and formal sounding writing doesn't make that term scientifically legitimate. I can easily create a wikipedia entry for "Left-wing Gender Neurocognitive Disorder." here's one I made up with chatgpt: Symptoms and Diagnosis: Individuals diagnosed with LWGND exhibit a range of symptoms that include: - Cognitive dissonance when attempting to reconcile left-wing political ideology with personal gender identity. - Psychological distress or confusion due to perceived inconsistencies between societal gender expectations and personal beliefs. - Difficulty engaging with political activities or discussions related to gender, resulting in social or occupational impairment. Diagnosis of LWGND requires a nuanced understanding of the individual’s sociopolitical context and personal history, often involving comprehensive assessments by multidisciplinary teams of political theorists, psychologists, and neuroscientists.