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No idea how collective bargaining works in Sweden, im Germany so individual employers regularly enter into supplemental agreements with their respesctive employ

by hef19898 3y ago

No idea how collective bargaining works in Sweden, im Germany so individual employers regularly enter into supplemental agreements with their respesctive employee councils. So I guess bothing prevents Tesla from doing the same with regards to their "better" conditions, employees and unions propably wont oppose that neither.

Ekaros 3y ago
You can always give employees more pay, more vacation, better health care and so on. No union will prevent that. It just guarantees the absolute minimum levels.
- Hamuko 3y ago
  Our collective agreement doesn't guarantee absolute minimums for all things. For example on on-call compensation: "Unless a local agreement has been made on standby compensation, the employee is paid 40% of the normal hourly salary."
  - jordanbeiber 3y ago
    That’s usually comp for simply being on-call - all agreements I’ve ever had includes increased compensation for actual on-call work a.k.a overtime compensation.
    - Hamuko 3y ago
      There's a separate section for the actual work. 3. Call-out Call-out means work for which the employee is called back after regular working hours and after having left the workplace. 3.1. At least one hour’s salary and a call-out pay shall be paid as follows: a) If the employee was called after regular working hours or on the employ- ee’s day off but before 9.00 pm, the call-out pay is equivalent to 2 hours’ salary. b) If the employee was called between 9:00 pm and 6:00 am, the call-out pay is equivalent to 3 hours’ salary. 3.2. If the work in case b) above represents daily overtime, the overtime com- pensation for call-out work done as overtime work is immediately 100%. https://ytn.fi/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/tes_engl_3101_2022_web.pdf https://ytn.fi/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/tes_engl_3101_2022...
  - hef19898 3y ago
    In Germany it is quite common for individual agreements to e.g. increase working hours from 35 to 37.5, 38 or 40 hours without a pay adjustment. Those individual agreements are still negotiated, most of the time, between an employer and company/employee union reps. What Tesla does is just plain stupid, only to make a point about opossing unions...

Ekaros 3y ago

You can always give employees more pay, more vacation, better health care and so on. No union will prevent that. It just guarantees the absolute minimum levels.

Hamuko 3y ago
Our collective agreement doesn't guarantee absolute minimums for all things. For example on on-call compensation: "Unless a local agreement has been made on standby compensation, the employee is paid 40% of the normal hourly salary."
- jordanbeiber 3y ago
  That’s usually comp for simply being on-call - all agreements I’ve ever had includes increased compensation for actual on-call work a.k.a overtime compensation.
  - Hamuko 3y ago
    There's a separate section for the actual work. 3. Call-out Call-out means work for which the employee is called back after regular working hours and after having left the workplace. 3.1. At least one hour’s salary and a call-out pay shall be paid as follows: a) If the employee was called after regular working hours or on the employ- ee’s day off but before 9.00 pm, the call-out pay is equivalent to 2 hours’ salary. b) If the employee was called between 9:00 pm and 6:00 am, the call-out pay is equivalent to 3 hours’ salary. 3.2. If the work in case b) above represents daily overtime, the overtime com- pensation for call-out work done as overtime work is immediately 100%. https://ytn.fi/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/tes_engl_3101_2022_web.pdf https://ytn.fi/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/tes_engl_3101_2022...
- hef19898 3y ago
  In Germany it is quite common for individual agreements to e.g. increase working hours from 35 to 37.5, 38 or 40 hours without a pay adjustment. Those individual agreements are still negotiated, most of the time, between an employer and company/employee union reps. What Tesla does is just plain stupid, only to make a point about opossing unions...