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Phind is pretty good for coding (LLama 2 trained on billions of extra code tokens) and is still up https://www.phind.com/s https://www.phind.com/s

hmmstedaa 3y ago
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coffeecantcode 3y ago
I’ve had some consistency issues with phind but as a whole I have no real complaints, just glitches here and there with large prompts not triggering responses and reply options disappearing. As a whole I think it works well in tandem with ChatGPT to bounce ideas or get alternate perspectives. (I also love the annotation feature where it shows the websites that it pulled the information from, very well done)
leumassuehtam 3y ago
I had great results with Phind. Their newest fine tune model (V7) has been a pleasant experience and better than most open source models out there. Nit: your link has a trailing "s" which makes it 404 :)
- Isthatablackgsd 3y ago
  Me too. For past few weeks, I had been working on my AHK scripting with Phind. It produced working code consistently and provided excellent command line for various software. Also I use it for LaTeX, too. It is very helpful providing various package than trying to hunt more information through Google. I got a working tex file within 15 min than it took me 3 weeks 5 years ago!
JCharante 3y ago
Phind seems to be down "The inference service may be temporarily unavailable - we have alerts for this and will be fixing it soon."
m3kw9 3y ago
The first coding question I tested it on, it gave me something completely wrong and it was pretty easy stuff, I’m sure it gets a lot right but this just shows unreliability
- lannisterstark 3y ago
  Phind for me has worked pretty bleh compared to just back and forth conversation with a python GPT4 bot I made lol.
  - bomewish 3y ago
    To use the api and stop them logging your chat? Have you compared to aider? Also got it on a repo?
  - nomel 3y ago
    GPT4 completion or chat model?
ttcbj 3y ago
I am curious how people are using Phind. I actually had a discussion with Phind itself recently, in which I said that in order to help me, it seems like it would need to ingest my codebase so that it understands what I am talking about. Without knowing my various models, etc, I don't see how it could write anything but the most trivial functions. It responded that, yes, it would need to ingest my codebase, but it couldn't. It was fairly articulate and seemed to understand what I was saying. So, how do people get value out of Phind? I just don't see how it can help with any case where your function takes or returns a non-trivial class as a parameter. And if can't do that, what is the point?
- rushingcreek 3y ago
  Founder here. We have a VS Code extension that automatically fetches context from your codebase.
  - kruxigt 3y ago
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  - aatd86 3y ago
    So if source available libraries are imported, they are also parsed by the AI? So if I create a GPT for my open-source library as a way to fund it, all these copilot etc. are going to compete with me? Just wondering because that would be a bummer to not have this avenue to fund open-source code.
    - CGamesPlay 3y ago
      I am not related to Phind or any other AI company, but yes, this is definitely the case, and you should assume that they will be ingesting your code through regular web scrapes now (giving extremely general knowledge about your library) and through reading specifically the library source code soon (this is what you are asking about here). If you wanted to try this strategy, I would suggest that you do it by providing the model with a large database of high-quality examples specific to your library (so, perhaps the examples section of your website, plus snippets from open source projects that use the library). These will probably be the last to be specifically ingested by general coding models.
notfed 3y ago
> 404 This page could not be found. Is /s a self-fulfilling sarcasm indicator or a typo?
hackernewds 3y ago
is this a shameless plug or an honest referral
- frabcus 3y ago
  Honest referral - I like multiple products in a category, and competition!
enoch2090 3y ago
Been playing with Phind for a while and my conclusion is: the Phind model works well on those long existing stuff like C++ libraries, but works generally bad on newer stuff, such as composing LCEL chains.
orf 3y ago
I just tried it: https://www.phind.com/search?cache=on5whfczqko9igz84bvacksk https://www.phind.com/search?cache=on5whfczqko9igz84bvacksk This entire thing is hallucinated as far as I can tell. The links to docs are nice though Edit: changing “astrojs” to “vite” responds with a really good and accurate answer: https://www.phind.com/search?cache=rh6s7pydzi3312b7rf43i7cm https://www.phind.com/search?cache=rh6s7pydzi3312b7rf43i7cm. Quite impressed

hmmstedaa 3y ago

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coffeecantcode 3y ago

I’ve had some consistency issues with phind but as a whole I have no real complaints, just glitches here and there with large prompts not triggering responses and reply options disappearing. As a whole I think it works well in tandem with ChatGPT to bounce ideas or get alternate perspectives. (I also love the annotation feature where it shows the websites that it pulled the information from, very well done)

leumassuehtam 3y ago

I had great results with Phind. Their newest fine tune model (V7) has been a pleasant experience and better than most open source models out there. Nit: your link has a trailing "s" which makes it 404 :)

Isthatablackgsd 3y ago
Me too. For past few weeks, I had been working on my AHK scripting with Phind. It produced working code consistently and provided excellent command line for various software. Also I use it for LaTeX, too. It is very helpful providing various package than trying to hunt more information through Google. I got a working tex file within 15 min than it took me 3 weeks 5 years ago!

JCharante 3y ago

Phind seems to be down "The inference service may be temporarily unavailable - we have alerts for this and will be fixing it soon."

m3kw9 3y ago

The first coding question I tested it on, it gave me something completely wrong and it was pretty easy stuff, I’m sure it gets a lot right but this just shows unreliability

lannisterstark 3y ago
Phind for me has worked pretty bleh compared to just back and forth conversation with a python GPT4 bot I made lol.
- bomewish 3y ago
  To use the api and stop them logging your chat? Have you compared to aider? Also got it on a repo?
- nomel 3y ago
  GPT4 completion or chat model?

ttcbj 3y ago

I am curious how people are using Phind. I actually had a discussion with Phind itself recently, in which I said that in order to help me, it seems like it would need to ingest my codebase so that it understands what I am talking about. Without knowing my various models, etc, I don't see how it could write anything but the most trivial functions. It responded that, yes, it would need to ingest my codebase, but it couldn't. It was fairly articulate and seemed to understand what I was saying. So, how do people get value out of Phind? I just don't see how it can help with any case where your function takes or returns a non-trivial class as a parameter. And if can't do that, what is the point?

rushingcreek 3y ago
Founder here. We have a VS Code extension that automatically fetches context from your codebase.
- kruxigt 3y ago
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- aatd86 3y ago
  So if source available libraries are imported, they are also parsed by the AI? So if I create a GPT for my open-source library as a way to fund it, all these copilot etc. are going to compete with me? Just wondering because that would be a bummer to not have this avenue to fund open-source code.
  - CGamesPlay 3y ago
    I am not related to Phind or any other AI company, but yes, this is definitely the case, and you should assume that they will be ingesting your code through regular web scrapes now (giving extremely general knowledge about your library) and through reading specifically the library source code soon (this is what you are asking about here). If you wanted to try this strategy, I would suggest that you do it by providing the model with a large database of high-quality examples specific to your library (so, perhaps the examples section of your website, plus snippets from open source projects that use the library). These will probably be the last to be specifically ingested by general coding models.

notfed 3y ago

> 404 This page could not be found. Is /s a self-fulfilling sarcasm indicator or a typo?

hackernewds 3y ago

is this a shameless plug or an honest referral

frabcus 3y ago
Honest referral - I like multiple products in a category, and competition!

enoch2090 3y ago

Been playing with Phind for a while and my conclusion is: the Phind model works well on those long existing stuff like C++ libraries, but works generally bad on newer stuff, such as composing LCEL chains.

orf 3y ago

I just tried it: https://www.phind.com/search?cache=on5whfczqko9igz84bvacksk https://www.phind.com/search?cache=on5whfczqko9igz84bvacksk This entire thing is hallucinated as far as I can tell. The links to docs are nice though Edit: changing “astrojs” to “vite” responds with a really good and accurate answer: https://www.phind.com/search?cache=rh6s7pydzi3312b7rf43i7cm https://www.phind.com/search?cache=rh6s7pydzi3312b7rf43i7cm. Quite impressed