Thank You, yes, of course. You are explaining better than my response did. I wasn't actually trying to take offense. It is true that some 'true believers' re

Thank You, yes, of course. You are explaining better than my response did. I wasn't actually trying to take offense. It is true that some 'true believers' really do draw the line at death and killing for religion. And there is a very large sliding scale between someone that just goes to church on Sunday then forgets about it, and someone how lives it so deeply they will become suicide bombers. Lot of gray area in between these worlds. Just I've always held out that Buddhist are different, without a 'god' to become radicalized around. The teachings of Buddha are bit more 'scientific'. It's more about reason, or if reason is still too strong, about how to understand the world. Isn't the heart sutra really about phenomenology. So, it is discouraging when a sect of Buddhist fall prey to the same foibles/downfall as say Catholicism, and become more about the 'image', than the 'understanding'. But, maybe all of this is just human nature. Built into our brains, ala William James. People have a religious experience, form a church, but eventually all religions of all stripes tend to become about a group hierarchy, and control, bureaucratic.