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> People from around the world, of all backgrounds, genders, and experience levels are welcome and respected equally. Except that if you don't agree with the a

> People from around the world, of all backgrounds, genders, and experience levels are welcome and respected equally. Except that if you don't agree with the authors political opinions: > Black lives matter. Trans rights are human rights. No nazi bullsh*t. Yet another project run by people who shoves politics into unnecessary spaces. I would never dare to use a project run by people that pushes their personal agendas on their website for a programming language. I do believe that there is only two genders, man and female. Am I a nazi now or what do Gleam mean by this message? Don't use projects like this.

s0l1dsnak3123 3y ago
Personal projects are driven by personal agendas. Also water is wet. If you don't like it and you can't find the motivation to build something better, perhaps that's because your agenda doesn't drive you enough.
- ecmascript 3y ago
  Why would I build something better? I am maybe not in the business nor have the interest of making a programming language. I don't really care that they have this message (except that I find it to be pretty insulting), I just think it's an unnecessary thing to do if you want people to use what you've made. I won't and I will encourage people not to use it just because of this.
  - Capricorn2481 3y ago
    > I don't really care that they have this message (except that I find it to be pretty insulting), I just think it's an unnecessary thing to do if you want people to use what you've made. I won't and I will encourage people not to use it just because of this. Sounds like you care a lot if you're gonna actively discourage people from interacting with the project.
    - ecmascript 3y ago
      > Sounds like you care a lot if you're gonna actively discourage people from interacting with the project. If someone would ask me in the future if I heard anything about Gleam, yes then I would actively discourage people from interacting with the project. If I read about it in a positive manner in the future here or in other forums, yes then I would probably write a comment warning people about it. If you think that is caring a lot then I care a lot. I don't consider that to be caring a lot though.
      - Capricorn2481 3y ago
        But you're also inserting politics in a technical discussion. The real issue is not that someone is putting politics in a technical place, it's that it contradicts yours. If I say I'm interested in using Gleam and you tell me there's only two genders, I do not see how that makes you any better.
        ecmascript 3y ago
        > But you're also inserting politics in a technical discussion. The discussion is about everything about the language not just the technical aspects so no I am not. > The real issue is not that someone is putting politics in a technical place, it's that it contradicts yours. No I wouldn't care whatever political agendas the author hadn't he put it straight on the website calling me a nazi. > If I say I'm interested in using Gleam and you tell me there's only two genders, I do not see how that makes you any better. Why would you assume I would say anything about genders if you asked me about gleam? I would say it's run by political extremists that use their programming language to push political agendas and that due to that, they are probably untrustworthy. I would say I would refuse to use it because of that but encourage you to make up your own mind.
        Capricorn2481 3y ago
        > Why would you assume I would say anything about genders if you asked me about gleam? Because nobody asked you about Gleam and you still brought up gender. And then you said you would continue to bring up politics whenever the language came up. > I would say it's run by political extremists that use their programming language to push political agendas I find it comical you think a programming language can be used to push a political agenda. That's got to be the least effective way to spread political ideology I've ever heard. You make it sound so sinister. > No I wouldn't care whatever political agendas the author hadn't he put it straight on the website calling me a nazi. Nobody called you a Nazi.
lawn 3y ago
> Am I a nazi now or what do Gleam mean by this message? There is a dot there, so they're separate issues.
- ecmascript 3y ago
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  - pvg 3y ago
    So it went from something in a footer to 'these people' surprisingly quickly but this thing is still just a footer not a windmill.

s0l1dsnak3123 3y ago

Personal projects are driven by personal agendas. Also water is wet. If you don't like it and you can't find the motivation to build something better, perhaps that's because your agenda doesn't drive you enough.

ecmascript 3y ago
Why would I build something better? I am maybe not in the business nor have the interest of making a programming language. I don't really care that they have this message (except that I find it to be pretty insulting), I just think it's an unnecessary thing to do if you want people to use what you've made. I won't and I will encourage people not to use it just because of this.
- Capricorn2481 3y ago
  > I don't really care that they have this message (except that I find it to be pretty insulting), I just think it's an unnecessary thing to do if you want people to use what you've made. I won't and I will encourage people not to use it just because of this. Sounds like you care a lot if you're gonna actively discourage people from interacting with the project.
  - ecmascript 3y ago
    > Sounds like you care a lot if you're gonna actively discourage people from interacting with the project. If someone would ask me in the future if I heard anything about Gleam, yes then I would actively discourage people from interacting with the project. If I read about it in a positive manner in the future here or in other forums, yes then I would probably write a comment warning people about it. If you think that is caring a lot then I care a lot. I don't consider that to be caring a lot though.
    - Capricorn2481 3y ago
      But you're also inserting politics in a technical discussion. The real issue is not that someone is putting politics in a technical place, it's that it contradicts yours. If I say I'm interested in using Gleam and you tell me there's only two genders, I do not see how that makes you any better.
      - ecmascript 3y ago
        > But you're also inserting politics in a technical discussion. The discussion is about everything about the language not just the technical aspects so no I am not. > The real issue is not that someone is putting politics in a technical place, it's that it contradicts yours. No I wouldn't care whatever political agendas the author hadn't he put it straight on the website calling me a nazi. > If I say I'm interested in using Gleam and you tell me there's only two genders, I do not see how that makes you any better. Why would you assume I would say anything about genders if you asked me about gleam? I would say it's run by political extremists that use their programming language to push political agendas and that due to that, they are probably untrustworthy. I would say I would refuse to use it because of that but encourage you to make up your own mind.
        Capricorn2481 3y ago
        > Why would you assume I would say anything about genders if you asked me about gleam? Because nobody asked you about Gleam and you still brought up gender. And then you said you would continue to bring up politics whenever the language came up. > I would say it's run by political extremists that use their programming language to push political agendas I find it comical you think a programming language can be used to push a political agenda. That's got to be the least effective way to spread political ideology I've ever heard. You make it sound so sinister. > No I wouldn't care whatever political agendas the author hadn't he put it straight on the website calling me a nazi. Nobody called you a Nazi.

lawn 3y ago

> Am I a nazi now or what do Gleam mean by this message? There is a dot there, so they're separate issues.

ecmascript 3y ago
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- pvg 3y ago
  So it went from something in a footer to 'these people' surprisingly quickly but this thing is still just a footer not a windmill.