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Are we just going to pretend they’re not political slogans? The statement was perfect until that last line.
by omginternets 3y ago
Are we just going to pretend they’re not political slogans?
The statement was perfect until that last line.
- jrsj 3y agoIt really shouldn’t be controversial to suggest that calling people nazis on the official website for your programming language is unprofessional, but here we are…
- omginternets 3y agoYou’re pretending it isn’t a political slogan and that the meaning doesn’t extend beyond the literal sense of the words. I’m wondering why you’d do that.
- jrsj 3y agoQuite the opposite if you see my other comments, I think you may have misread what I said here. This statement is clearly a problem imo, its usage of political slogans makes it more of a declaration of political allegiance rather than actually being about inclusivity.
- omginternets 3y agoI did indeed misread, and we are in perfect agreement! My apologies!
- galaxyLogic 3y ago> shouldn’t be controversial to suggest that calling people nazis on the official website is unprofessional Whom did they call "nazi"? Anybody? If they didn't call any particular person "nazi" then it's unprofessional to suggest they did that.
- jrsj 3y agoNo one explicitly But the idea that it would even be a concern for there to be “nazi bullshit” in a programming language would require such an absurdly broad definition of nazi that i can only assume whoever wrote this would consider a large % of Americans to be Nazis. This is inherently exclusionary. The statement is bullshit. It isn’t “Friendly <3” as the heading would suggest.
- omginternets 3y agoThe exact phrases in question are: 1. Black lives matter. 2. Trans rights are human rights. 3. No nazi bullsh*t. Phrases 1 & 2 are well-recognized political slogans, and I don't like some of the organizations that have very vocally rallied behind these slogans. Do you think that makes me a nazi? If not, how welcome do you think this makes me feel?
- tadfisher 3y agoThe line that says "no Nazi bullshit"? That has to be the safest political position you can hold as long as you're not friends with Kanye West.
- omginternets 3y agoIt's a dog whistle. It is exactly the same as if I were to say to you, "all lives matter" or "make America great again". PS: we know you know this.
- galaxyLogic 3y agoIt should be safe. Still it seems some people get offended by it. What kind of people? I can only assume they are people more supportive of autocratic regimes than the rest of us.
- omginternets 3y agoThe exact phrases in question are: 1. Black lives matter. 2. Trans rights are human rights. 3. No nazi bullsh*t. Phrases 1 & 2 are well-recognized political slogans, and I don't like some of the organizations that have very vocally rallied behind these slogans. Do you think that makes me a nazi? And if not, how welcome do you think this makes me feel?
- tadfisher 3y agoYou seem to be applying some kind of modus ponens rule to this list. To me, they read disjointly; you can agree with the status quo regarding police violence, and that trans people should not be welcomed in society, and still not follow Nazi ideology.
- omginternets 3y agoRespectfully, you’re dodging part of the question. How would you feel if my org stated “all lives matter” and pretended not to see the problem?