Right. So I'm just trying to figure which states do you think are/were actually socialist. > held (textbook) communism Not if bolshevism was textbook communis

Right. So I'm just trying to figure which states do you think are/were actually socialist. > held (textbook) communism Not if bolshevism was textbook communism. They did reject some core ideas promulgated by Marx (already back in ~1918). > outside of the USofA, I don't think US is particularly special in that regard compared to most western countries.