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He leaked excerpts from the text but not the full document. I would really like to read the actual full text document. The fact that the European commission kee

He leaked excerpts from the text but not the full document. I would really like to read the actual full text document. The fact that the European commission keeps the draft legislation secret is concerning. Is this the typical process for all EU regulation?

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jacquesm 3y ago
> I would really like to read the actual full text document. I think they are not releasing the full text to protect their source in case the text was steganographically marked.
layer8 3y ago
The processes are relatively transparent and regularly being reported upon [0][1], though working drafts are not generally public. Most of what is being criticized now is already contained in the 2021 proposal [2]. In reaction to earlier criticisms, provisions were added to the current draft to allow browser vendors to take measures in case of security concerns regarding QWACs, see paragraphs 2–4 in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38183994 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38183994. The whole thing is not a secret conspiracy, and legislators are generally well-intentioned (for whatever that’s worth). [0] https://www.europarl.europa.eu/legislative-train/spotlight-JD22/file-eid https://www.europarl.europa.eu/legislative-train/spotlight-J... [1] https://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/ATAG/2023/739285/EPRS_ATA(2023)739285_EN.pdf https://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/ATAG/2023/7392... [2] https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/ALL/?uri=COM%3A2021%3A281%3AFIN https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/ALL/?uri=COM%3A20...
- dwheeler 3y ago
  I believe the legislators are generally well-intentioned, but that is worth nothing. Laws and regulations should be judged by what they will do. In this case, they will make security worse, witg no adquate compensatory advantage, so it should be rejected.

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jacquesm 3y ago

> I would really like to read the actual full text document. I think they are not releasing the full text to protect their source in case the text was steganographically marked.

layer8 3y ago

The processes are relatively transparent and regularly being reported upon [0][1], though working drafts are not generally public. Most of what is being criticized now is already contained in the 2021 proposal [2]. In reaction to earlier criticisms, provisions were added to the current draft to allow browser vendors to take measures in case of security concerns regarding QWACs, see paragraphs 2–4 in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38183994 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38183994. The whole thing is not a secret conspiracy, and legislators are generally well-intentioned (for whatever that’s worth). [0] https://www.europarl.europa.eu/legislative-train/spotlight-JD22/file-eid https://www.europarl.europa.eu/legislative-train/spotlight-J... [1] https://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/ATAG/2023/739285/EPRS_ATA(2023)739285_EN.pdf https://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegData/etudes/ATAG/2023/7392... [2] https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/ALL/?uri=COM%3A2021%3A281%3AFIN https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/ALL/?uri=COM%3A20...

dwheeler 3y ago
I believe the legislators are generally well-intentioned, but that is worth nothing. Laws and regulations should be judged by what they will do. In this case, they will make security worse, witg no adquate compensatory advantage, so it should be rejected.