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It's not FUD it's the truth, they OBVIOUSLY want to control everything and remove privacy and enable government surveillance. They have just proven that by tryi

It's not FUD it's the truth, they OBVIOUSLY want to control everything and remove privacy and enable government surveillance. They have just proven that by trying over and over again. They just know they can not blatantly outlaw Linux or things like that, that is why they try to sneak in shit like this with some buried text on the legislation. If they could at the flip of a finger outlaw Linux and things like that and impose total control, they would for sure do it instantly. It's just that it's too established, too common so there would be too much outrage, so they try to break encryption this way instead. If they had their way, they would have a total control!

immibis 3y ago
This is the bill, right? There may be a newer version I didn't find. https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:52021PC0281 https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CEL... Can you indicate which parts are objectionable on the grounds of leading to a totalitarian surveillance dystopia?
- Saline9515 3y ago
  It's a slippery slope. In my language (french), we call it "sausage politics", where you take small slices of your freedom one by one. This regulation is unwanted by anyone in the EU, creates security risks, and relies mainly on "trust me I won't do anything bad", that we all know is not going to happen. Also, laws can't be reverted in the EU semi-dictatorial regime, so, such things are really dangerous. Each year that goes, I'm thinking of a plan to leave, as our freedoms get lower and lower. Recently, the digital services' EU gauleiter declared that "content calling for rebellion" should be deleted from social media. Same goes with AML, and with the digital ID, where your government will have a single key allowing to know every service you're registered to. And let's not speak about the CBDC.
- redder23 3y ago
  I will not do what you ask because you will not believe it anyway. You are desperately clinging on to some failed mindset that they are out for you because you like that they force Apple to use USB-C or whatever. You also seem not to read the actual point of the objection everyone has. They want to SPY ON EU citizens! WTF are you not understanding about this? Its all explained in the EFF article and countless others that are on top of HN right now. If you not see the INTENTIONS and the slow creeping dystopia you are blind. I am not going to search some specific text part out for you that proves that, its perfectly obvious for people who follow just a little bit of news and have common sense.

immibis 3y ago

This is the bill, right? There may be a newer version I didn't find. https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:52021PC0281 https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CEL... Can you indicate which parts are objectionable on the grounds of leading to a totalitarian surveillance dystopia?

Saline9515 3y ago
It's a slippery slope. In my language (french), we call it "sausage politics", where you take small slices of your freedom one by one. This regulation is unwanted by anyone in the EU, creates security risks, and relies mainly on "trust me I won't do anything bad", that we all know is not going to happen. Also, laws can't be reverted in the EU semi-dictatorial regime, so, such things are really dangerous. Each year that goes, I'm thinking of a plan to leave, as our freedoms get lower and lower. Recently, the digital services' EU gauleiter declared that "content calling for rebellion" should be deleted from social media. Same goes with AML, and with the digital ID, where your government will have a single key allowing to know every service you're registered to. And let's not speak about the CBDC.
redder23 3y ago
I will not do what you ask because you will not believe it anyway. You are desperately clinging on to some failed mindset that they are out for you because you like that they force Apple to use USB-C or whatever. You also seem not to read the actual point of the objection everyone has. They want to SPY ON EU citizens! WTF are you not understanding about this? Its all explained in the EFF article and countless others that are on top of HN right now. If you not see the INTENTIONS and the slow creeping dystopia you are blind. I am not going to search some specific text part out for you that proves that, its perfectly obvious for people who follow just a little bit of news and have common sense.