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I wonder how long it will be before we stop using animation and switch to an actual bipedal physics simulation where the agent actually knows how to walk and ju

I wonder how long it will be before we stop using animation and switch to an actual bipedal physics simulation where the agent actually knows how to walk and jump and run.

Keyframe 3y ago
We were there over a decade ago with Euphoria, but I think they've stopped selling/developing it? GTA 4 used it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HauN98naZ9U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HauN98naZ9U
- ingenieros 3y ago
  They were acquihired by Zynga of all companies which then promptly proceeded to kill off all their products.
- ajdoingnothing 3y ago
  GTA IV's tech was quite ahead of its time (2008), with the integration of Euphoria (which had to be integrated in-house by NaturalMotion engineers inside Rockstar's studio @ Edinburgh). The other comment correctly pointed out that NaturalMotion was acquired by Zynga, who in turn got acquired by Take-Two (parent of Rockstar Games).. So who knows, perhaps we'll still see an updated version in the sixth major instalment of the franchise.
  - midnightclubbed 3y ago
    Euphoria was used for a subset of animations, for the most part traditional mocapped animations (and a lot of them) were used to drive character movements. I don’t know if motion matching was used on GTA4 but it was on other Rockstar games at the time and subsequently. Characters blended to the hand written, custom, euphoria behaviors in certain situations… it handled falls, stumbles, deaths, etc. Generally it replaced ragdoll physics but wasn’t used during most character movement behaviors.
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ekianjo 3y ago
It seems like never because we had the tech before and everyone seems to be lazy about using it
dymk 3y ago
The keywords you're looking for are "procedural animation" and "inverse kinematics" - Overgrowth was doing this in 2009. The developer did a presentation at GDC 2014 on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNidsMesxSE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNidsMesxSE

I wonder how long it will be before we stop using animation and switch to an actual bipedal physics simulation where the agent actually knows how to walk and jump and run.

Keyframe 3y ago

We were there over a decade ago with Euphoria, but I think they've stopped selling/developing it? GTA 4 used it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HauN98naZ9U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HauN98naZ9U

ingenieros 3y ago
They were acquihired by Zynga of all companies which then promptly proceeded to kill off all their products.
ajdoingnothing 3y ago
GTA IV's tech was quite ahead of its time (2008), with the integration of Euphoria (which had to be integrated in-house by NaturalMotion engineers inside Rockstar's studio @ Edinburgh). The other comment correctly pointed out that NaturalMotion was acquired by Zynga, who in turn got acquired by Take-Two (parent of Rockstar Games).. So who knows, perhaps we'll still see an updated version in the sixth major instalment of the franchise.
- midnightclubbed 3y ago
  Euphoria was used for a subset of animations, for the most part traditional mocapped animations (and a lot of them) were used to drive character movements. I don’t know if motion matching was used on GTA4 but it was on other Rockstar games at the time and subsequently. Characters blended to the hand written, custom, euphoria behaviors in certain situations… it handled falls, stumbles, deaths, etc. Generally it replaced ragdoll physics but wasn’t used during most character movement behaviors.
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ekianjo 3y ago

It seems like never because we had the tech before and everyone seems to be lazy about using it

dymk 3y ago

The keywords you're looking for are "procedural animation" and "inverse kinematics" - Overgrowth was doing this in 2009. The developer did a presentation at GDC 2014 on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNidsMesxSE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNidsMesxSE