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As a European who has been living in the US for a decade, yeah, you're pretty spot on. Americans are a scared people, probably the most scared I've ever seen. A

by marfil 3y ago

As a European who has been living in the US for a decade, yeah, you're pretty spot on. Americans are a scared people, probably the most scared I've ever seen. Afraid of the gov't, the neighbors, and random people they don't even know. I've gotten a ton of hate as a foreigner and I am not surprised a hateful, greedy and selfish population like here is afraid somebody will take them out with an improvised device.

justrealist 3y ago
And yet, you live here. Annals of revealed preferences.
- marfil 3y ago
  Oh no, don't get me wrong, I've been dying to leave, nothing I would like more. But I am sure you've heard of the term economic slavery, and that's what I have become. Don't make enough to make the ends meet, and don't make enough to leave. Have to pay the debts before I can give up the passport.
  - thieving_magpie 3y ago
    I'm sure we could pull some money together to get you out of economic slavery. Don't want that on our conscience
  - slingnow 3y ago
    You poor soul. Moved to such a terrible nation full of those awful people you described and now you seem to be completely powerless to leave. And I'm 100% sure this is everyone elses fault. At what point do you look inward for someone to blame for your circumstances?
    - marfil 3y ago
      I was forced to move here when my parent got married. Never wanted to come here, didn't have a choice, tried to like it and I don't think that's humanly possible. Don't be a dick.
  - justrealist 3y ago
    Debt does not stop you from leaving, if you have a second passport.
    - marfil 3y ago
      US is one of the only countries in the world where you still have to pay US taxes no matter where you live or work and what passports you have, as long as you are a US citizen, and you can't give up US citizenship, which is also a paid process, unless you've paid all taxes.
      - justrealist 3y ago
        1. Only on income over $120,000 (it's inflation indexed), so it doesn't matter for the OP. 2. The US does not collect, if you don't want to come back to the US it doesn't matter.
        potatopatch 3y ago
        The US extends its power over financial institutions whenever it wants, so anyone who leaves the US without renouncing and then can't renounce due to incompliance is likely to end up unbanked eventually.
        justrealist 3y ago
        "likely" and "eventually" are doing a lot of work for you here.
        potatopatch 3y ago
        Likely and eventually are doing a lot of work for the US over decades, the hypothetical person is already unable to open a brokerage account since mid last decade in many countries. First world children accidentally having US citizenship from their parents youthful indiscretions aren't so happy this decade with their inability to use normal financial services in their own country. There's the possibility that the US gets sidelined in global finance but otherwise there's no reason to assume it won't continue with its current momentum instead of recently developed progressions somehow being steady state. Going to the US as some kind of fun few year adventure is really no longer something someone should contemplate without first consulting non existent neutral international financial/immigration/legal council. If you aren't sure of a very specific goal/desire consider if somewhere else might work well enough instead.
  - PrimeMcFly 3y ago
    I'm sorry but that's just nonsense. Worst case you can always go back to whatever country you're a citizen on, go on welfare and start over from scratch.
dwringer 3y ago
Generally making disparaging bigoted comments about a nationality is to be avoided here. It's certainly not productive to this discussion to label anyone as hateful, greedy, and selfish, and it runs afoul of the HN comment guidelines. There are plenty of ways to contribute to discussion without making remarks that are emotionally charged and inflammatory.
PrimeMcFly 3y ago
Non-American also been living here for a decade, and can only say your experiences are not representative, and you seemed to have picked a poor place to live.
- psunavy03 3y ago
  Or they're just prejudiced, and taking the worst possible view of their neighbors, who are in all likelihood perfectly normal people.
YeBanKo 3y ago
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matheusmoreira 3y ago
> Afraid of the gov't They should be. As should you.
buymreundrfear 3y ago
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by marfil 3y ago

justrealist 3y ago

And yet, you live here. Annals of revealed preferences.

marfil 3y ago
Oh no, don't get me wrong, I've been dying to leave, nothing I would like more. But I am sure you've heard of the term economic slavery, and that's what I have become. Don't make enough to make the ends meet, and don't make enough to leave. Have to pay the debts before I can give up the passport.
- thieving_magpie 3y ago
  I'm sure we could pull some money together to get you out of economic slavery. Don't want that on our conscience
- slingnow 3y ago
  You poor soul. Moved to such a terrible nation full of those awful people you described and now you seem to be completely powerless to leave. And I'm 100% sure this is everyone elses fault. At what point do you look inward for someone to blame for your circumstances?
  - marfil 3y ago
    I was forced to move here when my parent got married. Never wanted to come here, didn't have a choice, tried to like it and I don't think that's humanly possible. Don't be a dick.
- justrealist 3y ago
  Debt does not stop you from leaving, if you have a second passport.
  - marfil 3y ago
    US is one of the only countries in the world where you still have to pay US taxes no matter where you live or work and what passports you have, as long as you are a US citizen, and you can't give up US citizenship, which is also a paid process, unless you've paid all taxes.
    - justrealist 3y ago
      1. Only on income over $120,000 (it's inflation indexed), so it doesn't matter for the OP. 2. The US does not collect, if you don't want to come back to the US it doesn't matter.
      - potatopatch 3y ago
        The US extends its power over financial institutions whenever it wants, so anyone who leaves the US without renouncing and then can't renounce due to incompliance is likely to end up unbanked eventually.
        justrealist 3y ago
        "likely" and "eventually" are doing a lot of work for you here.
        potatopatch 3y ago
        Likely and eventually are doing a lot of work for the US over decades, the hypothetical person is already unable to open a brokerage account since mid last decade in many countries. First world children accidentally having US citizenship from their parents youthful indiscretions aren't so happy this decade with their inability to use normal financial services in their own country. There's the possibility that the US gets sidelined in global finance but otherwise there's no reason to assume it won't continue with its current momentum instead of recently developed progressions somehow being steady state. Going to the US as some kind of fun few year adventure is really no longer something someone should contemplate without first consulting non existent neutral international financial/immigration/legal council. If you aren't sure of a very specific goal/desire consider if somewhere else might work well enough instead.
- PrimeMcFly 3y ago
  I'm sorry but that's just nonsense. Worst case you can always go back to whatever country you're a citizen on, go on welfare and start over from scratch.

dwringer 3y ago

Generally making disparaging bigoted comments about a nationality is to be avoided here. It's certainly not productive to this discussion to label anyone as hateful, greedy, and selfish, and it runs afoul of the HN comment guidelines. There are plenty of ways to contribute to discussion without making remarks that are emotionally charged and inflammatory.

PrimeMcFly 3y ago

Non-American also been living here for a decade, and can only say your experiences are not representative, and you seemed to have picked a poor place to live.

psunavy03 3y ago
Or they're just prejudiced, and taking the worst possible view of their neighbors, who are in all likelihood perfectly normal people.

YeBanKo 3y ago

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matheusmoreira 3y ago

> Afraid of the gov't They should be. As should you.

buymreundrfear 3y ago

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