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Curious what you define as "minimal background checks" and "assault rifles" as

digdugdirk 3y ago
They already said they're European. The terms you mentioned are very Americanized/America-centric phrases. The rest of the world doesn't really have the same concern or context, because the rest of the world doesn't have the same issues or political/media environment.
- oaththrowaway 3y ago
  I was quoting their terms
YetAnotherNick 3y ago
Not American, and curious about the checks required for different weapons. I get lot of contradictory information online. Also read in many places buying illegally is easy. How true is that?
- oaththrowaway 3y ago
  To purchase a firearm from a store or any "licensed" individual (someone who has an FFL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Firearms_License https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Firearms_License) you must pass a background check done by the FBI. You can read more here: https://www.fbi.gov/how-we-can-help-you/more-fbi-services-and-information/nics https://www.fbi.gov/how-we-can-help-you/more-fbi-services-an... If you buy a gun from someone on a classifieds site or friend/family, in most states you don't have to get a background check to transfer ownership of the firearm. This is typically the "loophole" that people refer to when they want Universal Background Checks. I'm not sure what you mean by buying illegally - whether you mean to someone prohibited from owning firearms (like a felon or something), or buying "illegal" guns... Either way there are usually stiff penalties for owning restricted devices. For example if I were to 3D print an auto-sear for an AR-15 (making it full-auto), that's a ticket to a 10 year sentence in federal prison. Assuming I don't have the permission slip from the ATF. As for prohibited persons buying a firearm, I'm not sure what the penalties are, but at the least it'd be a violation of their release?
- jjkeddo199 3y ago
  Buying legally in the US isn't that hard to make it worth it to buy illegally unless you are a broke teenager buying one to try and "look cool and tough" to your friends.
  - gottorf 3y ago
    > unless you are a broke teenager buying one to try and "look cool and tough Or unless, of course, you're a criminal who is forbidden from legally buying a gun.
  - filoleg 3y ago
    > Buying legally in the US isn't that hard to make it worth it to buy illegally unless you are a broke teenager Or unless you have a felony, which would make up a much larger share of illegall firearm purchases than teenagers.
micromacrofoot 3y ago
in most states someone who has multiple assault violations and a history of mental health problems can walk into a gun show with $700 and 15 minutes later walk out with a semi-automatic AR-15
- oaththrowaway 3y ago
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  - micromacrofoot 3y ago
    not necessarily gun shows of course, that's just where it's easy to find private sellers - private sales don't require background checks
    - oaththrowaway 3y ago
      Depending on the state yeah
      - defrost 3y ago
        I hear the US has more than one state and open inter state borders though ... Kind of undercuts the whole some states have really good gun laws argument.
        oaththrowaway 3y ago
        Why do the states with "good" gun laws have worse gun violence?
        defrost 3y ago
        You'd want to direct that to whoever was claiming some laws better than others. It's moot when the inter state borders are leaky - the genius of Australia wasn't that guns were banned (they weren't) but that national gun laws were unified across all states so that all sales are registered and all buyers are vetted for criminal | domestic violence backgrounds.

They already said they're European. The terms you mentioned are very Americanized/America-centric phrases. The rest of the world doesn't really have the same concern or context, because the rest of the world doesn't have the same issues or political/media environment.

oaththrowaway 3y ago
I was quoting their terms

YetAnotherNick 3y ago

Not American, and curious about the checks required for different weapons. I get lot of contradictory information online. Also read in many places buying illegally is easy. How true is that?

oaththrowaway 3y ago
To purchase a firearm from a store or any "licensed" individual (someone who has an FFL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Firearms_License https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Firearms_License) you must pass a background check done by the FBI. You can read more here: https://www.fbi.gov/how-we-can-help-you/more-fbi-services-and-information/nics https://www.fbi.gov/how-we-can-help-you/more-fbi-services-an... If you buy a gun from someone on a classifieds site or friend/family, in most states you don't have to get a background check to transfer ownership of the firearm. This is typically the "loophole" that people refer to when they want Universal Background Checks. I'm not sure what you mean by buying illegally - whether you mean to someone prohibited from owning firearms (like a felon or something), or buying "illegal" guns... Either way there are usually stiff penalties for owning restricted devices. For example if I were to 3D print an auto-sear for an AR-15 (making it full-auto), that's a ticket to a 10 year sentence in federal prison. Assuming I don't have the permission slip from the ATF. As for prohibited persons buying a firearm, I'm not sure what the penalties are, but at the least it'd be a violation of their release?
jjkeddo199 3y ago
Buying legally in the US isn't that hard to make it worth it to buy illegally unless you are a broke teenager buying one to try and "look cool and tough" to your friends.
- gottorf 3y ago
  > unless you are a broke teenager buying one to try and "look cool and tough Or unless, of course, you're a criminal who is forbidden from legally buying a gun.
- filoleg 3y ago
  > Buying legally in the US isn't that hard to make it worth it to buy illegally unless you are a broke teenager Or unless you have a felony, which would make up a much larger share of illegall firearm purchases than teenagers.

micromacrofoot 3y ago

in most states someone who has multiple assault violations and a history of mental health problems can walk into a gun show with $700 and 15 minutes later walk out with a semi-automatic AR-15

oaththrowaway 3y ago
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- micromacrofoot 3y ago
  not necessarily gun shows of course, that's just where it's easy to find private sellers - private sales don't require background checks
  - oaththrowaway 3y ago
    Depending on the state yeah
    - defrost 3y ago
      I hear the US has more than one state and open inter state borders though ... Kind of undercuts the whole some states have really good gun laws argument.
      - oaththrowaway 3y ago
        Why do the states with "good" gun laws have worse gun violence?
        defrost 3y ago
        You'd want to direct that to whoever was claiming some laws better than others. It's moot when the inter state borders are leaky - the genius of Australia wasn't that guns were banned (they weren't) but that national gun laws were unified across all states so that all sales are registered and all buyers are vetted for criminal | domestic violence backgrounds.