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Funny enough. Whenever possible, I round all my tips to cause the total to generate a particular two digit cents amount - so that I can easily detect fraud whe
by boilerupnc 3y ago
Funny enough. Whenever possible, I round all my tips to cause the total to generate a particular two digit cents amount - so that I can easily detect fraud when I scan my statements. It’s my low tech error code check.
- velcrovan 3y agoHas this ever turned up anything suspicious?
- eadler 3y agoI track almost all of my expenditures. At a restaurant I used to visit fairly regularly I noticed that my costs were often off by approximately ±25 cents. This was inconsistent and not always in one party's favour. Upon reporting and investigation it turned out that (a) I routinely wrote 'math' along with a total instead of a tip and (b) one of the waiters only approximated the math required. Nothing nefarious and I'm not even sure if I won or lost out of this - but it was interesting to catch.
- pdntspa 3y ago> I routinely wrote 'math' Why would you do this?
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- dboreham 3y ago1+ bottle wine?
- topherclay 3y agoI had to reread this because it didn't make sense to me the first time because it's so insane.
- ska 3y agoNot surprising, right? I don't know what you expected implicitly asking them to do the arithmetic for you, but I would've assumed not much care would be taken.
- PKop 3y agoCatch what? Why would you do something so silly
- JohnFen 3y ago> I routinely wrote 'math' along with a total instead of a tip I, too, am dying to know why you do this. I assume that you didn't intend it to be punitive, but that's what it looks like to me.
- gurchik 3y agoI've heard that half the time a restarant's POS is configured to ask the waiter to enter the number written on the tip line, but the other half of the time, it's configured for the them to enter what's written on the total line. Meaning, in the first case, writing "math" means more work for the waiter, and in the latter case, you better be careful the amount you wrote on the total line is accurate.
- lxgr 3y agoWriting both the tip and total adds redundancy which helps to avoid data entry mistakes.
- boilerupnc 3y agoIt actually did. At a wings place I noticed a total that wasn’t my usual last two digits. I called up the place and they confirmed they had an employee who had been altering tip amounts and also skimming cards. They advised me to call my credit card company and ask for a new card. It is now a well defined muscle memory for me. Therefore for very little effort I get a desirable side effect of easy detection. My teen son currently rolls his eyes when I fill out the receipt but I suspect he’ll adopt the habit in some form over time.
- bravura 3y agoWhat about routine credit card transactions that you don’t tip on? Isn’t that the bulk of purchases ?
- SpaceNoodled 3y agoHe's the guy that tips at grocery stores.
- throwanem 3y agoTransactions that don't involve latency in knowing the final amount also don't offer the same opportunity for chicanery.
- jdadj 3y agoI use palindromes. Easy to check and will catch extra dollars added.
- aembleton 3y agoI get a notification on my phone when any money is deposited or withdrawn from my account. If its not something I've just done or an unexpected amount, then its probably fraud and I can tell my bank.
- cj 3y agoIn the US, restaurants immediately charge the price of the meal (without tip). Then the next day the restaurant updates the amount of the original charge to add on the amount you added as a tip. That means shady restaurant could change your tip the next day if they wanted to pull a fast one on you. In other words, it’s not possible to get an immediate notification of the total amount charged including tip until 1-2 days after the meal. (Don’t ask me why the system works this way, makes no sense to me)
- throwanem 3y agoIt works that way because in the 1980s that was the only way to make it work at all, and it still works that way because being able to do the equivalent of an HTTP OPTIONS preflight for money is actually quite useful.
- cj 3y agoA restaurant could ask for the tip before charging the card.
- throwanem 3y agoOkay. Now: - every restaurant PoS has to be updated to handle this use case; - you have to wait for your server to make a second visit to your table before you can sign your tab and leave; - every server has to spend extra time dealing with every table's tab upfront, rather than settling after close when no customers are inconvenienced by the time that takes; - and all this cost and friction to reduce the incidence of a kind of low-value card-present fraud which is trivial for the customer to have reversed, and quite rare in all respects save the purely anecdotal. If you're going to worry about any kind of payment card chicanery at a restaurant, the thing worth looking out for is skimming, not this.
- Fatnino 3y agoIs it 69? It's 69.
- workfromspace 3y agoMy guess is 42.