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Meta: how did Sardinia end up with Italy but Corsica with France?

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toyg 3y ago
Both were actually taken over by French nobility in the XVIII century; it just so happened that the owners of Sardegna ended up conquering the whole of Italy 100 years later, and rebranded themselves Italian.
rmccue 3y ago
Genoa gave it to France to pay for their debt apparently: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Versailles_(1768) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Versailles_(1768)
dboreham 3y ago
Something something Habsburgs?
School-Cotton 3y ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_conquest_of_Corsica https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_conquest_of_Corsica Summary: “in 1767, the Republic of Genoa, exhausted by forty years of fighting, decided to sell the island to France which, after its defeat in the Seven Years' War, was trying to reinforce its position in the Mediterranean. In 1768, with the Treaty of Versailles (1768), the Genoese republic ceded all its rights on the island.” However, Corsica was already de facto independent from Genoa at this time, so France had to send troops to conquer it. In general, there are lots of places in Europe where language and culture don’t align with state borders (for example: Austria and parts of Switzerland and Italy are German-speaking, but not part of Germany). The reason usually dates to the time before modern nation-states.
- dragonwriter 3y ago
  > The reason usually dates to the time before modern nation-states. Also, the nation-state norm was largely aspirational when it arose (and now), and the attempts to realize it since have been as much about attempting to craft new national identities corresponding to states as to align states to pre-existing national identities.
ThePowerOfFuet 3y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Versailles_(1768) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Versailles_(1768)
oh_sigh 3y ago
The simplest answer is that they were both shuffled around by a wide range of greater powers, and when the world was settling upon modern nation-states, France had control over Corsica and Italy over Sardinia.

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toyg 3y ago

Both were actually taken over by French nobility in the XVIII century; it just so happened that the owners of Sardegna ended up conquering the whole of Italy 100 years later, and rebranded themselves Italian.

rmccue 3y ago

Genoa gave it to France to pay for their debt apparently: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Versailles_(1768) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Versailles_(1768)

dboreham 3y ago

Something something Habsburgs?

School-Cotton 3y ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_conquest_of_Corsica https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_conquest_of_Corsica Summary: “in 1767, the Republic of Genoa, exhausted by forty years of fighting, decided to sell the island to France which, after its defeat in the Seven Years' War, was trying to reinforce its position in the Mediterranean. In 1768, with the Treaty of Versailles (1768), the Genoese republic ceded all its rights on the island.” However, Corsica was already de facto independent from Genoa at this time, so France had to send troops to conquer it. In general, there are lots of places in Europe where language and culture don’t align with state borders (for example: Austria and parts of Switzerland and Italy are German-speaking, but not part of Germany). The reason usually dates to the time before modern nation-states.

dragonwriter 3y ago
> The reason usually dates to the time before modern nation-states. Also, the nation-state norm was largely aspirational when it arose (and now), and the attempts to realize it since have been as much about attempting to craft new national identities corresponding to states as to align states to pre-existing national identities.

ThePowerOfFuet 3y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Versailles_(1768) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Versailles_(1768)

oh_sigh 3y ago

The simplest answer is that they were both shuffled around by a wide range of greater powers, and when the world was settling upon modern nation-states, France had control over Corsica and Italy over Sardinia.