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Poverty and desperation can often drive people to bend their moral compass quite a bit.

by AlecSchueler 3y ago

JCharante 3y ago
How many people knowledgeable to mass produce fake chargers are in poverty? My assumption is that it's greed.
- autoexec 3y ago
  Wasn't it just two years ago that apple was caught using slaves? And that was after years of their factories and suppliers abusing children and keeping workers in inhumane living and working conditions. I think we can pretty much guarantee that a massive number of people who are intimately familiar with making apple products, including chargers, are living in poverty. Some people at Foxconn were even caught selling genuine apple parts that failed QA to be used in making counterfeit apple products.
askonomm 3y ago
I tend to believe that a moral compass is a made-up social invention. Children don't have it. We have to teach them these made up rules, how you should feel when you do something against those rules, etc. We ingrain it deep into you much like how religion is ingrained deep into young people, so that by the time you are an adult that's all you know, and it seems to work well, most people never even second guess these things.
- mportela 3y ago
  As most things in life, it is more complicated than that. While the environment plays a major role in people's moral codes, there seems to be at least some innate development happening too. I'm not a trained psychologist but I've seen scientific evidence on some of these behaviors already showing up in babies as young as a few weeks old, suggesting some of the things we consider to be culturally nurtured can actually be part of the species as a whole. Netflix has an easy-to-digest docu-series called Babies and episode S0204 talks about that, if you're interested. [1] https://www.netflix.com/title/80117833 https://www.netflix.com/title/80117833
  - askonomm 3y ago
    Oh nice, will give that episode a watch! Thank you. If it's true we also have some built-in moral compass by default, it certainly would improve my worldview from bleak to a bit better.

Poverty and desperation can often drive people to bend their moral compass quite a bit.

JCharante 3y ago

How many people knowledgeable to mass produce fake chargers are in poverty? My assumption is that it's greed.

autoexec 3y ago
Wasn't it just two years ago that apple was caught using slaves? And that was after years of their factories and suppliers abusing children and keeping workers in inhumane living and working conditions. I think we can pretty much guarantee that a massive number of people who are intimately familiar with making apple products, including chargers, are living in poverty. Some people at Foxconn were even caught selling genuine apple parts that failed QA to be used in making counterfeit apple products.

askonomm 3y ago

I tend to believe that a moral compass is a made-up social invention. Children don't have it. We have to teach them these made up rules, how you should feel when you do something against those rules, etc. We ingrain it deep into you much like how religion is ingrained deep into young people, so that by the time you are an adult that's all you know, and it seems to work well, most people never even second guess these things.

mportela 3y ago
As most things in life, it is more complicated than that. While the environment plays a major role in people's moral codes, there seems to be at least some innate development happening too. I'm not a trained psychologist but I've seen scientific evidence on some of these behaviors already showing up in babies as young as a few weeks old, suggesting some of the things we consider to be culturally nurtured can actually be part of the species as a whole. Netflix has an easy-to-digest docu-series called Babies and episode S0204 talks about that, if you're interested. [1] https://www.netflix.com/title/80117833 https://www.netflix.com/title/80117833
- askonomm 3y ago
  Oh nice, will give that episode a watch! Thank you. If it's true we also have some built-in moral compass by default, it certainly would improve my worldview from bleak to a bit better.