JSP, ASP, CFM, Rails ERB, DJango ALL have the same exact thing. The only difference is PHP tutorials typically have a big block at the top of the "page" for bus

JSP, ASP, CFM, Rails ERB, DJango ALL have the same exact thing. The only difference is PHP tutorials typically have a big block at the top of the "page" for business logic, and then intersperse logic throughout the view. Most of these other frameworks/languages (barring CFM and old ASP) expect you to adhere to some sort of MVC. Saying PHP smells by default is a little less than fair. :-)