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Because there's no reason to assume that the "default" state of nature is some ideal or good for anything. It could be but what are the odds? We're still apes i
by Spivak 3y ago
Because there's no reason to assume that the "default" state of nature is some ideal or good for anything. It could be but what are the odds? We're still apes in a world that changed wildly out of pace with the speed of natural evolution.
> equally large percentage of the population on androgenic medications
Its funny you say this because doing this would actually put humanity back to the testosterone levels men had for most of human history.
- anon291 3y ago> s funny you say this because doing this would actually put humanity back to the testosterone levels men had for most of human history. Women and men respond differently to testosterone, so this argument does not hold.
- Spivak 3y agoThe equally large population you wanted to give testosterone to wasn't men?
- aaomidi 3y ago> Because there's no reason to assume that the "default" state of nature is some ideal or good for anything. But there is? Thousands of years of evolution is actually a pretty high bar to pass.
- Spivak 3y agoIf you're gonna make this case you're going to have to additionally argue that said evolution makes sense in an environment that is not the one we evolved to survive in. A lot of our evolutionary baggage is maladaptive.
- kelseyfrog 3y agoHow do you feel about modern medical therapies? The default state of nature does not include them.
- aaomidi 3y agoIt’s never perfect, but it still is a high barrier to pass. As for modern therapies, I mean - depends? A lot of our modern illnesses also simply didn’t exist at the scale they do now. Heart disease has been going up steadily in the past few centuries for example. ADHD is an interesting one too. I have ADHD. For the vast majority of human history it probably won’t have been a big deal for my mental health, but it is now due to what’s expected of me.