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Apologies for the off topic comment, but I don’t understand HN’s algorithm sometimes. How is an almost day-old article with 126 votes still on the front page?

Apologies for the off topic comment, but I don’t understand HN’s algorithm sometimes. How is an almost day-old article with 126 votes still on the front page? E.g. above a post that’s only 11 hours old with 597 votes and 343 comments? [1] I’ve been seeing this a lot lately, and it’s somewhat frustrating to see posts I’m not interested in drowning out others I find more interesting. I thought it might be the second chance pool [2], but that’s not the case here. I’ve also seen articles that I think are very interesting and can generate interesting discussion with a lot of votes in a short span (e.g. less than an hour), suddenly drop to the second or third page, completely killing momentum. Maybe those are getting flagged, but they don’t feel like articles that should be flagged, and don’t ultimately get labeled as “[flagged]”. Just curious in case others knew what might be happening. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38172437 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38172437 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/pool https://news.ycombinator.com/pool

doublerabbit 3y ago
I call shenanigans on karma. This user, and that user has karma in the 10k range. It could be they have more priority over posted content on the front page. Due to the secret karma protocol that goes on behind the scene, you'll don't know. HN features unlock at different point ranges as you may already know. The ideology of internet points, upvotes / downvotes are broken; abused. In-that to downvote you should have to leave a reason to why your down-voting. That would mitigate a lot of problems. If you don't want to give kudos, don't upvote. If you truly are unhappy with my comment tell me why rather than lurking in the shadows pleasuring yourself because you clicked a down arrow. The system is rigged anyhow.
- eutropia 3y ago
  Some comments convey such a lack of goodwill that it would be a waste of anyone's time to explain to the author of that comment why it was worth downvoting. Usually, if a comment hits a critical mass of several violations of the spirit of the conduct desired here on HN, I'll downvote and move on. If you think of what would happen as a group if someone say, posted a flame-bait comment, and then everyone who wanted to downvote it had to leave a comment _engaging_ with the flame bait: then you've given oxygen to that fire. It's most prudent to instead not engage and send a simple signal to the commenter "this comment was not well received". It avoids creating a dogpile of people scolding that commenter or spiraling into deeply nested argumentative threads devoid of curiosity.
- fragmede 3y ago
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doublerabbit 3y ago

I call shenanigans on karma. This user, and that user has karma in the 10k range. It could be they have more priority over posted content on the front page. Due to the secret karma protocol that goes on behind the scene, you'll don't know. HN features unlock at different point ranges as you may already know. The ideology of internet points, upvotes / downvotes are broken; abused. In-that to downvote you should have to leave a reason to why your down-voting. That would mitigate a lot of problems. If you don't want to give kudos, don't upvote. If you truly are unhappy with my comment tell me why rather than lurking in the shadows pleasuring yourself because you clicked a down arrow. The system is rigged anyhow.

eutropia 3y ago
Some comments convey such a lack of goodwill that it would be a waste of anyone's time to explain to the author of that comment why it was worth downvoting. Usually, if a comment hits a critical mass of several violations of the spirit of the conduct desired here on HN, I'll downvote and move on. If you think of what would happen as a group if someone say, posted a flame-bait comment, and then everyone who wanted to downvote it had to leave a comment _engaging_ with the flame bait: then you've given oxygen to that fire. It's most prudent to instead not engage and send a simple signal to the commenter "this comment was not well received". It avoids creating a dogpile of people scolding that commenter or spiraling into deeply nested argumentative threads devoid of curiosity.
fragmede 3y ago
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