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good god he built this, it's his channel so he can video it however he wants. i dont understand the point of this comment. why are you questioning the video len

good god he built this, it's his channel so he can video it however he wants. i dont understand the point of this comment. why are you questioning the video length and supposedly intention behind it? just skip it or don't watch.

endisneigh 3y ago
People like to complain, lol. It’s a travesty the grandparent is the top comment. Such entitlement. The author also has a patreon for any interested https://www.patreon.com/workshopnation https://www.patreon.com/workshopnation
- thisOtterBeGood 3y ago
  So let's complain about people that are complaining, that's much better. Surely noone can complain about that.
  - nativeit 3y ago
    Why do you feel the need to complain about the people complaining about the people complaining? Just let them complain in peace!
bilekas 3y ago
I can't speak for OP, but I did comment how it also made my feel a bit weird, I get suspicious given the amount of shills/plants large companies will create as 'spontaneous' social media success people. Its used to create a more authentic connection to a person who then shills the brand they've been planted by. Prevalent or not, the ide gives off creepy vibes to me personally .
- flkenosad 3y ago
  Sounds like you people just lack a solid attention span mixed with a little paranoia. There's absolutely nothing "creepy" about that video.
  - katbyte 3y ago
    Yea.. like it’s a 20 min video total. it’s shorter then a average 30min tv show episode without commercials
    - mft_ 3y ago
      Sure, but it's a 20 minute video, ˜40-50% of which is arguably unnecessary: it could have been a kick-ass 10 minute tightly-edited informative video. It's not about a short attention span - it's about the value of the time spent.
      - flkenosad 3y ago
        Those tightly compressed videos are not "kick-ass" at all. They're high-pitched and annoying.
      - katbyte 3y ago
        That’s your perspective- I hate tictok videos because they are just so ungodly short and compressed to the point of being in enjoyable - I don’t care how much information they convey. I enjoy longer form videos that indulge, it’s a better production and more enjoyable Like your argument boils down to why watch planet earth when you could look at a few photos and read the wiki It’s not just about conveying information here
  - bilekas 3y ago
    > Sounds like you people just lack a solid attention span Sorry but that's really not it, I just don't watch a video on a topic I'm interested in for 30 seconds of city skyline views with some light music.. My attention span has nothing to do with it, my patience for wasting my time does however. Edit : Just to reiterate, I liked the video, cool idea.. Just the balance seemed off to me. It's not worth an argument to be honest. Maybe I shouldn't have said anything.
    - flkenosad 3y ago
      No that's fair. I didn't mean to shit on your opinion. I just really enjoyed the slower pace and tbh I'm a little frustrated by how quickly internet people talk these days.
mft_ 3y ago
I know, right? God forbid we should share our opinions of things posted to an internet forum, on an internet forum. Whatever is the world coming to? To answer your question less sarcastically, I watch quite a lot of 'technical' or project Youtube videos - e.g. Stuff Made Here, Superfast Matt, Colin Furze, Aging Wheels, Bad Obsession Motorsports, Matthias Wendel, Peter Sripol, Tom Stanton... and the video style in this case was such an outlier (even considering the trend I've seen in recent years across multiple channels) that it was mildly noteworthy. I can't remember the last time I skipped such large segments of a video from any of the producers I listed above (apart from sponsor segments, natch). If it's the quirk of the individual producer, then of course it's his prerogative, no question. But if his goal is to grow his channel, such feedback may actually have value, given it might turn some viewers off.
- nativeit 3y ago
  That’s a great list. I enjoy Superfast Matt, and respect Matthias Wandel, the most out of those.
jolt42 3y ago
Pretty sure Mark Robar has a rant about this that creators are pretty much forced (mathematically) to make longer videos if they want to be successful.
- nativeit 3y ago
  Wanting to be successful in a field that is driven by capricious technical whimsy and uncorrelated luck is generally a mistake. Do it for yourself, come what may.
GuB-42 3y ago
Of course he has the right to do whatever he wants (as long as it is legal), but he shared it and even monetized it, so we also have the right to comment, including pointing out the parts we didn't like. I think it is fair, although personal criticism (I liked this, disliked that). The questioning is also constructive. Just look at the replies. They are interesting, as you can see why people liked or didn't like the "fluff". It also suggests a simple, but not obvious answer to the questioning. Creators do this because people like it.

endisneigh 3y ago

People like to complain, lol. It’s a travesty the grandparent is the top comment. Such entitlement. The author also has a patreon for any interested https://www.patreon.com/workshopnation https://www.patreon.com/workshopnation

thisOtterBeGood 3y ago
So let's complain about people that are complaining, that's much better. Surely noone can complain about that.
- nativeit 3y ago
  Why do you feel the need to complain about the people complaining about the people complaining? Just let them complain in peace!

bilekas 3y ago

I can't speak for OP, but I did comment how it also made my feel a bit weird, I get suspicious given the amount of shills/plants large companies will create as 'spontaneous' social media success people. Its used to create a more authentic connection to a person who then shills the brand they've been planted by. Prevalent or not, the ide gives off creepy vibes to me personally .

flkenosad 3y ago
Sounds like you people just lack a solid attention span mixed with a little paranoia. There's absolutely nothing "creepy" about that video.
- katbyte 3y ago
  Yea.. like it’s a 20 min video total. it’s shorter then a average 30min tv show episode without commercials
  - mft_ 3y ago
    Sure, but it's a 20 minute video, ˜40-50% of which is arguably unnecessary: it could have been a kick-ass 10 minute tightly-edited informative video. It's not about a short attention span - it's about the value of the time spent.
    - flkenosad 3y ago
      Those tightly compressed videos are not "kick-ass" at all. They're high-pitched and annoying.
    - katbyte 3y ago
      That’s your perspective- I hate tictok videos because they are just so ungodly short and compressed to the point of being in enjoyable - I don’t care how much information they convey. I enjoy longer form videos that indulge, it’s a better production and more enjoyable Like your argument boils down to why watch planet earth when you could look at a few photos and read the wiki It’s not just about conveying information here
- bilekas 3y ago
  > Sounds like you people just lack a solid attention span Sorry but that's really not it, I just don't watch a video on a topic I'm interested in for 30 seconds of city skyline views with some light music.. My attention span has nothing to do with it, my patience for wasting my time does however. Edit : Just to reiterate, I liked the video, cool idea.. Just the balance seemed off to me. It's not worth an argument to be honest. Maybe I shouldn't have said anything.
  - flkenosad 3y ago
    No that's fair. I didn't mean to shit on your opinion. I just really enjoyed the slower pace and tbh I'm a little frustrated by how quickly internet people talk these days.

mft_ 3y ago

I know, right? God forbid we should share our opinions of things posted to an internet forum, on an internet forum. Whatever is the world coming to? To answer your question less sarcastically, I watch quite a lot of 'technical' or project Youtube videos - e.g. Stuff Made Here, Superfast Matt, Colin Furze, Aging Wheels, Bad Obsession Motorsports, Matthias Wendel, Peter Sripol, Tom Stanton... and the video style in this case was such an outlier (even considering the trend I've seen in recent years across multiple channels) that it was mildly noteworthy. I can't remember the last time I skipped such large segments of a video from any of the producers I listed above (apart from sponsor segments, natch). If it's the quirk of the individual producer, then of course it's his prerogative, no question. But if his goal is to grow his channel, such feedback may actually have value, given it might turn some viewers off.

nativeit 3y ago
That’s a great list. I enjoy Superfast Matt, and respect Matthias Wandel, the most out of those.

jolt42 3y ago

Pretty sure Mark Robar has a rant about this that creators are pretty much forced (mathematically) to make longer videos if they want to be successful.

nativeit 3y ago
Wanting to be successful in a field that is driven by capricious technical whimsy and uncorrelated luck is generally a mistake. Do it for yourself, come what may.

GuB-42 3y ago

Of course he has the right to do whatever he wants (as long as it is legal), but he shared it and even monetized it, so we also have the right to comment, including pointing out the parts we didn't like. I think it is fair, although personal criticism (I liked this, disliked that). The questioning is also constructive. Just look at the replies. They are interesting, as you can see why people liked or didn't like the "fluff". It also suggests a simple, but not obvious answer to the questioning. Creators do this because people like it.