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My outside IP address in Missouri hasn't changed in at least five years. No matter how many times I try to get it to release and renew, I always get the same ad

My outside IP address in Missouri hasn't changed in at least five years. No matter how many times I try to get it to release and renew, I always get the same address. So I'd say that's pretty static...

batch12 3y ago
So if you have the same large ISP as me, you can change your IP by changing the MAC of your router and rebooting your modem.
- anonymousnotme 3y ago
  I don't have to reboot my router or modem. I just have an a script that changes the MAC and releases and renews or rather gets an IP address via DHCP. My ISP is slow at handing out an IP address out as it takes several minutes, but it is automated. When the same operation is done for an IP on the LAN, it is a second or or two to get a new IP address. I figure the main reason to get a new IP address is so that web sites can't track one by IP. If carrier grade NAT is used, then is there a point in changing one's IP? If one does not use any peer to peer, then it seems that carrier grade NAT should lower the cost of one's internet service and that should be preferred. If one needs anonymity for bittorrent or other peer to peer, then shouldn't a VPN or i2p be used? I got the impression that i2p might be slow.
BLKNSLVR 3y ago
I noticed that I kept getting the same IP address after reboots and even extended (tens of minutes) of the router being switched off. A couple of years later my house was raided by the police. I don't know if the two are related though, but within a couple of months after the raid my IP address changed for the first time since I noticed it being "static". Likely to be pure coincidence, but after that particular experience there are all sorts of different things that could be "putting two and two together"-type paranoia. It's back to being reliably static at the moment... brb, someone at the door ;)
- underseacables 3y ago
  You seem to have left out an important detail, why did your house get raided by the police?
  - BLKNSLVR 3y ago
    Distributing CSAM. They took about $10k worth of my home lab gear. After eight months I was told I could go collect it back after they found nothing. It was pretty traumatic. I still need to write down the complete summary. I've got about 50 pages of notes. Knowing I was innocent was a certain comfort, but I really didn't know if there were going to be other motivations to manufacture something. Thankfully that didn't happen.
    - flandish 3y ago
      This is the kind of thing where a home server being hacked could be used as a proxy/dumping/holding spot with the homeowner not even knowing… until that knock. Proving you didn’t know on your own svr.. prob impossible.
    - underseacables 3y ago
      That's horrible and ridiculous, did you ever find out how they pinned this on you? I've heard of people in Europe running Tor exit nodes getting raided. Just getting raided for something like that, or accused without evidence, is enough to destroy a person's life.
      - BLKNSLVR 3y ago
        No. Other than receiving a minimal by mail notification about picking up my stuff, there's been no further communication. At the time of the raid, and when I rang the lead investigator (roughly once a month) to get a status update and ask a couple of questions, the only answer I ever got was that the IP address of my household was flagged a number of times over the course of a few years. Similarly to this "I know what you download" site listing something I definitely haven't downloaded, it makes me very skeptical of the thoroughness of both the Police's source information and their ability to understand what it actually means (and therefore any ability to apply logical reasoning to implications of it - such as it's potential fallibility). All information I've received has been because I asked questions. Nothing was given voluntarily. Upon asking "whether this was over", the lead Investigator gave me the impression I was still a suspicious character because: - I had "tor" on one of my computers - I had visited and downloaded things from Mega (apparently frequently used for such materials) - I had virtual machines. This is the Police's level of understanding of technology. It's scary, it's sad, and it's disappointing, and I fucking hope I never get caught in their web of incompetence ever again. I actually viscerally feel like I'm still under some amount of surveillance. But that might be just standard background paranoia (refer: Slartibartfast).
labcomputer 3y ago
One thing I’ve noticed for certain ISPs is that you have to reboot both the modem and the router to get a new IP (or release / reboot modem / renew).

batch12 3y ago

So if you have the same large ISP as me, you can change your IP by changing the MAC of your router and rebooting your modem.

anonymousnotme 3y ago
I don't have to reboot my router or modem. I just have an a script that changes the MAC and releases and renews or rather gets an IP address via DHCP. My ISP is slow at handing out an IP address out as it takes several minutes, but it is automated. When the same operation is done for an IP on the LAN, it is a second or or two to get a new IP address. I figure the main reason to get a new IP address is so that web sites can't track one by IP. If carrier grade NAT is used, then is there a point in changing one's IP? If one does not use any peer to peer, then it seems that carrier grade NAT should lower the cost of one's internet service and that should be preferred. If one needs anonymity for bittorrent or other peer to peer, then shouldn't a VPN or i2p be used? I got the impression that i2p might be slow.

BLKNSLVR 3y ago

I noticed that I kept getting the same IP address after reboots and even extended (tens of minutes) of the router being switched off. A couple of years later my house was raided by the police. I don't know if the two are related though, but within a couple of months after the raid my IP address changed for the first time since I noticed it being "static". Likely to be pure coincidence, but after that particular experience there are all sorts of different things that could be "putting two and two together"-type paranoia. It's back to being reliably static at the moment... brb, someone at the door ;)

underseacables 3y ago
You seem to have left out an important detail, why did your house get raided by the police?
- BLKNSLVR 3y ago
  Distributing CSAM. They took about $10k worth of my home lab gear. After eight months I was told I could go collect it back after they found nothing. It was pretty traumatic. I still need to write down the complete summary. I've got about 50 pages of notes. Knowing I was innocent was a certain comfort, but I really didn't know if there were going to be other motivations to manufacture something. Thankfully that didn't happen.
  - flandish 3y ago
    This is the kind of thing where a home server being hacked could be used as a proxy/dumping/holding spot with the homeowner not even knowing… until that knock. Proving you didn’t know on your own svr.. prob impossible.
  - underseacables 3y ago
    That's horrible and ridiculous, did you ever find out how they pinned this on you? I've heard of people in Europe running Tor exit nodes getting raided. Just getting raided for something like that, or accused without evidence, is enough to destroy a person's life.
    - BLKNSLVR 3y ago
      No. Other than receiving a minimal by mail notification about picking up my stuff, there's been no further communication. At the time of the raid, and when I rang the lead investigator (roughly once a month) to get a status update and ask a couple of questions, the only answer I ever got was that the IP address of my household was flagged a number of times over the course of a few years. Similarly to this "I know what you download" site listing something I definitely haven't downloaded, it makes me very skeptical of the thoroughness of both the Police's source information and their ability to understand what it actually means (and therefore any ability to apply logical reasoning to implications of it - such as it's potential fallibility). All information I've received has been because I asked questions. Nothing was given voluntarily. Upon asking "whether this was over", the lead Investigator gave me the impression I was still a suspicious character because: - I had "tor" on one of my computers - I had visited and downloaded things from Mega (apparently frequently used for such materials) - I had virtual machines. This is the Police's level of understanding of technology. It's scary, it's sad, and it's disappointing, and I fucking hope I never get caught in their web of incompetence ever again. I actually viscerally feel like I'm still under some amount of surveillance. But that might be just standard background paranoia (refer: Slartibartfast).

labcomputer 3y ago

One thing I’ve noticed for certain ISPs is that you have to reboot both the modem and the router to get a new IP (or release / reboot modem / renew).