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what i find stupid is that you can represent yourself, but you cant have your non lawywr friend represent you. Despite one being better than the other.

SnootyMonkey 3y ago
This is an example of regulatory capture. In this case, by the legal profession. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_capture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_capture
shalmanese 3y ago
Not stupid at all! There are many things I help others do that I explicitly want others to do if it were me. eg: I am really good at helping other people build websites but every personal website I have tried to build, I've floundered at until I've brought in outside help. I assume lawyers have figured out it works the same way as the common saying goes "Any lawyer that represents himself has a fool for a client".
- justanotherjoe 3y ago
  I think we're in approval, no? But in lawyering, people need defending cause they can't defend themselves. It's not preference, it's a need. "There is nothing more annoying than when you think someone is wrong, but they think they are right". And here's the interesting part, it doesn't matter if you're actually right. This is why people need someone defending them. Cause the resulting optics from defending yourselves, coming off as ignorant, unrepentant, or downright evil, is so destructive. Ofc it's even worse cause it often is the case that you are wrong, but still needs defending for lighter sentence (which you deserve, in truth). YOu can't do this on your own. Tangential, but this is also why employees don't come to their manager to tell about all their small accomplishments and deeds that they think are underappreciated. You just simply can't testify for yourselves. Especially if you have some dirt on you, and who doesn't? We dont promote ourselves cause we know instinctively it will be received poorly. AND IT WILL. But if other employees go to the manager and say things they appreciate of you, then it's suddenly okay. If people catch on to this, we'll have a more healthier workplace.

SnootyMonkey 3y ago

This is an example of regulatory capture. In this case, by the legal profession. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_capture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulatory_capture

shalmanese 3y ago

Not stupid at all! There are many things I help others do that I explicitly want others to do if it were me. eg: I am really good at helping other people build websites but every personal website I have tried to build, I've floundered at until I've brought in outside help. I assume lawyers have figured out it works the same way as the common saying goes "Any lawyer that represents himself has a fool for a client".

justanotherjoe 3y ago
I think we're in approval, no? But in lawyering, people need defending cause they can't defend themselves. It's not preference, it's a need. "There is nothing more annoying than when you think someone is wrong, but they think they are right". And here's the interesting part, it doesn't matter if you're actually right. This is why people need someone defending them. Cause the resulting optics from defending yourselves, coming off as ignorant, unrepentant, or downright evil, is so destructive. Ofc it's even worse cause it often is the case that you are wrong, but still needs defending for lighter sentence (which you deserve, in truth). YOu can't do this on your own. Tangential, but this is also why employees don't come to their manager to tell about all their small accomplishments and deeds that they think are underappreciated. You just simply can't testify for yourselves. Especially if you have some dirt on you, and who doesn't? We dont promote ourselves cause we know instinctively it will be received poorly. AND IT WILL. But if other employees go to the manager and say things they appreciate of you, then it's suddenly okay. If people catch on to this, we'll have a more healthier workplace.