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Incorrect. The pedestrian was dragged for 20ft because that’s how long car took to stop. The slower the car would have been to react, the more the pedestrian wo

by chroma 3y ago

Incorrect. The pedestrian was dragged for 20ft because that’s how long car took to stop. The slower the car would have been to react, the more the pedestrian would have been dragged. And humans get confused and have people pinned under their cars all the time. Nobody wants to continue running over a person (even if it’s the best course of action in hindsight), and they often get out of the vehicle to check before even noticing that someone is underneath.

steveBK123 3y ago
Not what some sources have said: "State officials claimed that Cruise showed the DMV and California Highway Patrol onboard video of its car braking hard and stopping. But, Cruise failed to share footage showing the pedestrian being dragged as the car maneuvered to the side of the road, according to the state." https://www.ktvu.com/news/cruise-failed-to-share-footage-of-pedestrian-being-dragged-dmv-says https://www.ktvu.com/news/cruise-failed-to-share-footage-of-... Curious why they didn't share all the video if they think they did such an excellent job?
- chroma 3y ago
  Cruise said they shared all the video from the crash with government agencies including the DMV, and the DMV says Cruise didn't because they managed to get an additional video from another government agency. So how could Cruise be hiding the video if another government agency has it? It seems much more likely that Cruise shared everything and there was some mix-up with the California DMV. I've encountered that situation many times. The most egregious example was them fining me for not paying registration fees on a vehicle I had sold over five years earlier. I know there's nothing that will ever convince you that autonomous vehicles are safe, but please think about what safe autonomous vehicles would look like if they were rolled out. These sorts of stories get tons of eyeballs, so journalists are trying to find any example of an autonomous system harming people. Even better if you can blame tech companies for being negligent or irresponsible. So every single incident, even if it's caused by a psychopath hit-and-run driver, is blamed on the machine. And every detail is exaggerated and misconstrued to make the machine (and the manufacturer) seem as terrible as possible. So the stories simply don't matter. The figure of merit is fatalities per passenger mile. Currently, Cruise's is zero. Cruise employees are riding in these vehicles, as are their family members. They walk near these vehicles every day. If they actually believed they were unsafe, they'd deploy the vehicles far away from their homes.

by chroma 3y ago

steveBK123 3y ago

Not what some sources have said: "State officials claimed that Cruise showed the DMV and California Highway Patrol onboard video of its car braking hard and stopping. But, Cruise failed to share footage showing the pedestrian being dragged as the car maneuvered to the side of the road, according to the state." https://www.ktvu.com/news/cruise-failed-to-share-footage-of-pedestrian-being-dragged-dmv-says https://www.ktvu.com/news/cruise-failed-to-share-footage-of-... Curious why they didn't share all the video if they think they did such an excellent job?

chroma 3y ago
Cruise said they shared all the video from the crash with government agencies including the DMV, and the DMV says Cruise didn't because they managed to get an additional video from another government agency. So how could Cruise be hiding the video if another government agency has it? It seems much more likely that Cruise shared everything and there was some mix-up with the California DMV. I've encountered that situation many times. The most egregious example was them fining me for not paying registration fees on a vehicle I had sold over five years earlier. I know there's nothing that will ever convince you that autonomous vehicles are safe, but please think about what safe autonomous vehicles would look like if they were rolled out. These sorts of stories get tons of eyeballs, so journalists are trying to find any example of an autonomous system harming people. Even better if you can blame tech companies for being negligent or irresponsible. So every single incident, even if it's caused by a psychopath hit-and-run driver, is blamed on the machine. And every detail is exaggerated and misconstrued to make the machine (and the manufacturer) seem as terrible as possible. So the stories simply don't matter. The figure of merit is fatalities per passenger mile. Currently, Cruise's is zero. Cruise employees are riding in these vehicles, as are their family members. They walk near these vehicles every day. If they actually believed they were unsafe, they'd deploy the vehicles far away from their homes.