> They're not the best we've had, as a measurable fact or certainly a verifiable/pollable mass opinion. I don't necessarily disagree, but "mass opinion" being

> They're not the best we've had, as a measurable fact or certainly a verifiable/pollable mass opinion. I don't necessarily disagree, but "mass opinion" being lower could be due to standards changing. What exactly is your "measure" here for a "measurable fact"?